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Old April 8th 04, 11:45 PM
Stefan
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I don't know the regs. But frankly, I think a flight instructor who's
not current on spins isn't qualified to instruct, whether the regs
require it or not.

Here in Switzerland, flight instructors are required to hold a full
aerobatic rating before they can apply for the instructor rating, and
I've always thought this was reasonable. At least it was so before we
joined JAR, it may have changed now.

BTW: I always read the term CFI (certificated flight instructor). This
rises the question: Is there such a thing as an uncertificated flight
instructor?

Stefan

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Old April 9th 04, 09:42 PM
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Stefan wrote in message ...

BTW: I always read the term CFI (certificated flight instructor). This
rises the question: Is there such a thing as an uncertificated flight
instructor?


Yes. You can receive instruction from military instructors in some
cases that are not CFIs (not certified as instructors by the FAA). You
can also be a CGI (ground instructor). The main reason we call it a
CFI is because that is what the FAA prints on the ticket, "Certified
Flight Instructor". Back in the pre 1970's days people just had
"Flight Instructor" as a rating on the pilot's ticket. Nowadays a CFI
is a different ticket, different piece of paper in your pocket from
your pilot's cert.

-Robert, CFI
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Old April 9th 04, 09:53 PM
Ben Jackson
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In article ,
Robert M. Gary wrote:
Nowadays a CFI
is a different ticket, different piece of paper in your pocket


*Now*adays it's a different piece of PLASTIC. I kind of feel sorry for
CFIs having to carry around 2-3 credit-card sized certificates now
(3 if you're an AGI and carry it).

Even the new temporary certificates are bigger. Out with the carbon
forms, in with the portable inkjet printed half-letter sized sheet.

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Ben Jackson

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Old April 9th 04, 11:29 PM
Robert Moore
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Just nit-picking.....

(Robert M. Gary) wrote

The main reason we call it a CFI is because that is what the FAA
prints on the ticket, "Certified Flight Instructor".


Not on my Flight Instructor certificate. To the FAA, I'm just the
holder of Flight Instructor certificate #.......... There is no
instance in FAR 61, 91 or 141 where the FAA uses the term "certified".
Part 141 is the only remaining part where the FAA has not replaced
the phrase "Certificated Flight Instructor" with "Authorized Flight
Instructor".

Nowadays a CFI is a different ticket, different piece of paper in
your pocket from your pilot's cert.


I don't have a CFI, nor a ticket, but I do posess a Flight Instructor
certificate.

Older Airman Certificates used to state that..............
"This certifies that.......has been found to be properly qualified to
exercise the privilege of........."

Newer certificates simply state
"...........has ben found to be properly qualified to exercise the
privilege of............".


We don't refer to Private Pilots as "CPP"s, Certificated or Certified
Private Pilots even though, just as Flight Instructors, they all hold
FAA Airman Certificates.

Bob Moore
Flight Instructor (FAA certificated)
Airline Transport Pilot (FAA certificated)



 




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