Ramp checked at AVP today

"Newps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:55:16 -0700, BTIZ wrote:


He can ask for anything he wants.. That does not mean he gets to see
them.
He can "see" not handle, the pilot certificate and a medical if
required.
What would you have done if he pocketed the certificate or your medical.

Tell you what. Next time you see a FSDO inspector ask him what would
happen to a FSDO inspector who kept a medical or pilot certificate
during a ramp check against the pilots wishes. My local FSDO guys just
shudder at what would happen to that guy. They told me to just fly
anyways and to expect a FedEx'ed package with your stuff the next day as
well as a personal call of apology from the FSDO chief apologizing
profusely for his agents gross misconduct.

Wasn't Bob Hoovers ticket pulled on the spot by a couple of FAA types that
had no idea how to fly an airplane? It is well known that the FAA will
back its own no matter how wrong the action might have been i.e.. the
Bainbridge absurdity.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Wasn't Bob Hoovers ticket pulled on the spot by a couple of FAA types that
had no idea how to fly an airplane?

No. His medical was revoked on an emergency basis, but that has nothing to
do with the question of whether handing your paperwork over to an inspector
will affect your certificate status one way or the other.

If the FAA wants to suspend or revoke your privileges, whether or not you
have your certificates in hand don't matter. Your privileges get suspended
or revoked, and you keeping your papers won't change that. Conversely, if
an inspector takes your certificates from you, and claims that you
voluntarily surrendered them, refusing to give them back, that does not mean
that you cannot fly. It just means that inspector will get into trouble
with his supervisors.

The rules regarding what constitutes voluntary surrender are very clear, and
nothing that happens during a ramp check could result in qualifying as
voluntary surrender (unless you somehow accidently write a letter to the FAA
during the ramp check...a bizarre situation to ponder, IMHO).

Pete

Dave Stadt wrote:



Wasn't Bob Hoovers ticket pulled on the spot by a couple of FAA types that
had no idea how to fly an airplane?

No, not on the spot. That's not even possible to do.

Dave Stadt wrote:

Wasn't Bob Hoovers ticket pulled on the spot by a couple of FAA types that
had no idea how to fly an airplane?

Yes, and that's precisely why inspectors aren't allowed to do it anymore.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".