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"Dave Buckles" wrote in message
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David Brooks wrote:
Easy way to remember. Take the three pairs of words:
left, right
port, starboard
red, green

The shorter words go together, and the longer words go together. You
could
probably add:
pilot, passenger (or pilot, instructor)

Alternatively:
"Red" and "Right" both start with the same letter. It would sort of
make sense for them to be the same side. Since we're dealing with the
FAA, we can't have *that* sort of logic running around, so switch 'em.

"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

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"Dave Stadt" wrote:

"Dave Buckles" wrote in message
news:AsJfc.7906$55.1601@lakeread02...
David Brooks wrote:
Easy way to remember. Take the three pairs of words:
left, right
port, starboard
red, green

The shorter words go together, and the longer words go together. You
could
probably add:
pilot, passenger (or pilot, instructor)

Alternatively:
"Red" and "Right" both start with the same letter. It would sort of
make sense for them to be the same side. Since we're dealing with the
FAA, we can't have *that* sort of logic running around, so switch 'em.

"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

That only really works in Bouyage Region B, i.e. roughly the US and its
imperial dependencies :-). Doesn't do much good in the majority of the
maritime world, where keeping red bouys on the right while entering a
port or channel would be exactly the wrong thing to do.

You don't know how odd it was for me when I first sailed the Chesapeake
after a lifetime of sailing in Australia and elsewhere, where keeping
red to red is the absolute rule on entering a channel or port...

Hamish

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message om...

"Red", "right", "returning" works. It refers to keeping the red bouys on
the right when returning to a harbor. (simplified explanation) Doesn't do
much good in an airplane but the boat people did use some logic.

That one works if you're talking about the lights on an airplane ahead of you.

Here are a few of my memory jogs :

Which color light is on which side - Reds are leftists.
Port and starboard - Starboard has 2 Rs, so it's on the right.
Cruising alitudes - Easterners are odd (I live in the west :-)).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Dave Buckles wrote:

"Red" and "Right" both start with the same letter. It would sort of
make sense for them to be the same side. Since we're dealing with the
FAA, we can't have *that* sort of logic running around, so switch 'em.

Consider:

You're a-flyin' along at night, and you see, ahead of you, a flashing
beacon, with solid green on the left, solid red on the right, and the
gap between the two lights is slowly growing.

Red. Right. Returning. (yeah, it doesn't quite translate to aviation,
'cause you have to think of "returning" being equal to "bearing down
on ya")

You better bank right yourself, *now*, or that guy's gonna take you
out.

Be safe out there,

Rob

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:15:11 -0700, "PJ Hunt"
wrote:

I wonder how many pilots know where the port side or the starboard side is?

Why would any one care?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Are we flying airplanes or boats?

PJ

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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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That's pretty funny. I wonder how many DEA guys know that the pilot's
side in a J-3 is the port side?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:48:35 GMT, Roger Halstead
wrote:

Why would any one care?

Because port remains the same, whereas "left" changes depending on
whether you're inside the plane (and if inside, whether you're facing
fore or aft) or outside propping it, for example.

How many times have you noted that the prop turns left (as seen from
the pilot's seat)? The prop turns to port. (Unless you;re British, of
course

all the best -- Dan Ford
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The prop turns to port.

Well, the top of the prop maybe. The bottom goes the other way.

g,d,r

Jose

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Cub Driver wrote:

Because port remains the same, whereas "left" changes depending on
whether you're inside the plane (and if inside, whether you're facing
fore or aft) or outside propping it, for example.

Not to me, it doesn't. The left side of the plane is always the same side.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:04:28 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:48:35 GMT, Roger Halstead
wrote:

Why would any one care?

Because port remains the same, whereas "left" changes depending on
whether you're inside the plane (and if inside, whether you're facing
fore or aft) or outside propping it, for example.

To me, it matters not if I'm in or out, the pilot's side is the left
side of the plane. When I look at a plane be it from front or rear
port and left are always the same for the airplane, to me.

I've been flying for many years and never new which side was port or
starboard...although it used to be larboard and starboard.


How many times have you noted that the prop turns left (as seen from
the pilot's seat)? The prop turns to port. (Unless you;re British, of
course

No...It turns clockwise or counterclockwise...er...anticlockwise.

That's like the question, which rudder pedal do you push on to counter
the torque on climb out. "Which ever one makes it go straight". :-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Port wine is red.

It's not how I remember it, but it might help some.

Jose

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