Moving to CA

Wow, I thought this was a rather innocuous thread; a relatively
safe place to post, but alas, I think someone was just insinuated
to be classist and racist based solely on support of his favorite
aerodrome.

Oh jeez,,, it was all tongue-in-cheek. He IS classist though (wink) By the
way, what model BMW do YOU drive? ... :-}~

I still stand by my statement that the traffic to get to RHV,
especially at peak and near-peak times (like cutting the afternoon
at work a little short) is the main reason I prefer PAO. I'm
starting from Santa Clara (office) and that's just how it works
out. Also, from Campbell (home), which is a good ten miles
closer to RHV than PAO, it's a faster drive on weekends.
Both airports can get busy, and you might wait at PAO sometimes,

==== Might???? Sometimes???? Is that what ya call PAO's 'parking lot' in
the run-up area...??? ;-)

If ya have the money to burn,, ,then go ahead,,, but I'd rather see my
flying dollars translate into the most flying time I can possibly get and
don't get me started on how 'fun' it is waiting to get sequenced out of PAO
versus RHV.

I have seen [nice|beater] [foreign|domestic] [automobiles|aircraft]
at both airports.

Naw,,,, PAO is BEAMer and Mercedes land,,,, any beat-up cars you see come
from the impoverished help that they hire to service the 'rich folks'.
Working folk fly out of RHV.... ;-)

For the record, they're both fine airports. The wet rate for
your favorite airplane is higher at PAO. That's a fact. There
are restaurants near RHV that are good, and there are restaurants
near PAO that are good, too. Lunch near PAO will cost you more,
however.

Yes they are LOTS higher!!! Suggestion for those who aren't in the know....
Go to Nice Air, take your lessons or rent a plane at a lower HOBBS and
INSTRUCTOR rate AND you WON'T HAVE TO PAY MEMBERSHIP OR MONTHLY DUES!!!!!

Ladies and gentleman,,,,, Cecil,,, has left the building....... ;-)

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Cecil
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- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

"Cecil Chapman" wrote:

Oh jeez,,, it was all tongue-in-cheek. He IS classist though (wink) By the
way, what model BMW do YOU drive? ... :-}~

Okay, okay. You know, sometimes it's not so clear in email.
Not that I'm a huge fan of smileys, but sometimes they go
a long way.

I drive a non-luxury (though nice enough) car. Mustang
convertible.


[ the hobbs rates are higher ]

Yes they are LOTS higher!!! Suggestion for those who aren't in the know....
Go to Nice Air, take your lessons or rent a plane at a lower HOBBS and
INSTRUCTOR rate AND you WON'T HAVE TO PAY MEMBERSHIP OR MONTHLY DUES!!!!!

Okay, one nit about this.

At Sundance there is no daily minimum. I can take an aircraft
to O22, camp three days, fly back, and pay for 2.5 hours on the
Hobbs.

I don't know Nice Air's policy, but a friend of mine who uses
Tradewinds tells me that long trips are simply not practical
based on their hours/day minumims.

-- dave j

I drive a non-luxury (though nice enough) car. Mustang
convertible.

You are an excellent human being, in my book!!! If you tell me that it is a
classic Mustang, then you will rate somewhere near 'divine being' ;-)

At Sundance there is no daily minimum. I can take an aircraft
to O22, camp three days, fly back, and pay for 2.5 hours on the
Hobbs.

I don't know Nice Air's policy, but a friend of mine who uses
Tradewinds tells me that long trips are simply not practical
based on their hours/day minimums.

Hmmm... I like that.. Yeah, most of the other local spots DO have a daily
minimum which can really get to be a bore if ya just want to fly down to San
Diego and hang around and play tourist for a few days. By the way O22 IS a
great visit! Always amazes me it is so 'close' by air.

Are there membership dues/fees at Sundance?

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL
Student-IASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
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"Cecil Chapman" wrote:


[ on owning a quality American-made vehicle ]

You are an excellent human being, in my book!!! If you tell me that it is a
classic Mustang, then you will rate somewhere near 'divine being' ;-)

Alas, no, it's only six years new. I intend to keep it a good
while. Maybe one day it will achieve classic status.

Are there membership dues/fees at Sundance?

Yeah, unfortunatey there are. $35/month. Depending on
how much you fly, and how many trips you go on, it
can still come out to be a net win.

What is not a net win is being a member of several
flying clubs to get the peculiar benefits of each.
The memberships add up.

-- dave j

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:10:29 GMT, "Cecil Chapman"
wrote:

Wow, I thought this was a rather innocuous thread; a relatively
safe place to post, but alas, I think someone was just insinuated
Oh jeez,,, it was all tongue-in-cheek. He IS classist though (wink)

And now you're insulting me... You will not be getting a checkmark next
to "Plays Well With Others" on your next report card, young man.

Ironically I was trying to give the original poster a frank and
hopefully helpful contrast between the two airports.. Just because I say
that PAO has more interesting airplanes to look at (please do look up
"personal opinion"), you're *still* taking potshots at me. I participate
in a lot of different on-line forums - many concerning aviation - and I
don't recall encountering anyone (at least recently) that is so prone to
be confrontational and offensive.

Jerk. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. "(wink)"

Dave Blevins

Jerk. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. "(wink)"

Dave Blevins

Jeez,,, you're no fun anymore ;-)

Have a great weekend, anyway,,,,,,, Mr. Moneybags.... grin

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL
Student-IASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -