Pilot's Political Orientation

"C J Campbell" writes:

"Theorem" wrote in message
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BllFs6 wrote:

Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke



If only it was even as good as that

Liberalism is more imprisoning than communism ever thought of being
while
hiding under the fake facade of true freedom.....

Jesus was a liberal.

Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?

In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.
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"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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Jesus was a liberal.

Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?

In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.
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Ah. I was not aware that Jesus had said much about politics at all. Can you
show me where Jesus taught enforced socialism? Where he favors abortion?
What was Jesus' opinion of immigration? What did he think of campaign
finance reform? What was his opinion of gay marriage? Where does Jesus say
that governments should own all property? What did Jesus say about gun
rights? What did he say about freedom of the press or of speech?

Now, Jesus did say that adulterers, thieves, whoremongers, and the like will
be thrust down to Hell, which does not bode well for most liberals (or
conservatives, either). He also said that those who repent and stop doing
those things will not suffer such a fate, but I don't find many liberals
taking that very seriously. Jesus cursed the only tree mentioned in the
narratives, and it died, so he can hardly be considered much of an
environmentalist. In fact, he expresses no concern whatsoever when his
disciples catch so many fish that the boat is in danger of sinking. Of
course, the Creator of all things in Heaven and Earth could just create
another tree or more fish if he wanted, so maybe he had different
perspective.

The most that can be said for Jesus' political opinions is that he said you
should obey the laws of the land, be a good citizen, treat your servants and
slaves well, and pay your taxes. He also said you should keep the
commandments and that even anger was a form of murder and that looking at
other women was adultery. Nope. I don't see where either liberals or
conservatives have much claim to be followers of Jesus. Sorry.

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

"C J Campbell" writes:



"Theorem" wrote in message
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BllFs6 wrote:



Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke



If only it was even as good as that

Liberalism is more imprisoning than communism ever thought of being


while


hiding under the fake facade of true freedom.....


Jesus was a liberal.


Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?



In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.

Congratulations! Now we can argue unproductively about both politics
and religion
in the same thread.

Rich Lemert

"darwin smith" wrote in message
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Jesus was a liberal.


Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?



In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.

Congratulations! Now we can argue unproductively about both politics
and religion
in the same thread.


I am certain, however, that Jesus did slips with flaps. While programming in
FORTH. On a Windows PC.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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I am certain, however, that Jesus did slips with flaps.
While programming in FORTH. On a Windows PC.


To bring a bit of piloting back into this discussion, Jesus handled a plane
well.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:43:17 GMT, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I am certain, however, that Jesus did slips with flaps.
While programming in FORTH. On a Windows PC.


To bring a bit of piloting back into this discussion, Jesus handled a plane
well.

I bet Jesus was more into boating. He walked over water.

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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:43:17 GMT, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I am certain, however, that Jesus did slips with flaps.
While programming in FORTH. On a Windows PC.


To bring a bit of piloting back into this discussion, Jesus handled a
plane
well.

I bet Jesus was more into boating. He walked over water.


No doubt he would have enjoyed water skiing.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:43:17 GMT, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I am certain, however, that Jesus did slips with flaps.
While programming in FORTH. On a Windows PC.


To bring a bit of piloting back into this discussion, Jesus handled a
plane
well.

I bet Jesus was more into boating. He walked over water.


No doubt he would have enjoyed water skiing.

Barefoot water skiing.

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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I bet Jesus was more into boating. He walked over water.


Jesus was a carpenter. Why would one that can walk on water bother with a
boat.