Pilot's Political Orientation

Dave Stadt wrote:

You obviously have no idea what is being taught in the liberal run
education

system in this country.

The great shield of both the left and the right - rely on slogans and
avoid
anything that might smack of a fact. Facts have a couple of unnerving
habits -
they can be verified or disproven, and they are neutral. By themselves they
don't favor either side of the argument - this only happens when they are
"interpreted".

Rich Lemert

The prisons are full of parentless children. I am not about to
support anything that is likely to make the situation even worse.

This makes no sense. Are you afraid gays will produce more "parentless
children" (as if there were such a thing) if they were permitted to marry?

You seem to have warped a connection to gays wishing to be legally married
and irresponsible heterosexuals. They have nothing to do with each other.

What exactly is it about gay people that scares you, CJ?

The
family infrastructure in this country is broken. I strongly believe
that allowing gay marriages will sweep away whatever remnants remain
of the concept of family.

Lol - what exactly do you predict will happen? This?:

"Ya know, babe, I was thinking about asking you to marry me, but since Bob
and Jim got married, I've decided I'll just impregnate you and split."

in article v1xgc.10847$hw5.8404@attbi_s53, Kevin at wrote on
4/18/04 8:20 AM:

S Green wrote:
"Doug Carter" wrote in message
...

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
et...


And the "conservatives" are different, how?

Conservatives object to excessive government spending,
especially when it is used to force social engineering.
Brian Riedl at the Heritage Foundation notes (quoted in part):


and the money being spent in Iraq is NOT social engineering then?


I am shocked to see we have liberal pilots. I thought the liberals were
to busy spending their money on enviro friendly cars

A great idea. Do you have a problem with this, or would you prefer to
continue spending $2 a gallon to keep the Middle East rich?

, saving the whales,

What on earth is wrong with that?

protesting against the death penalty,

Good thing, too. Fortunately, a few governers (mostly Republican) took
notice, and they managed to save quite a few wrongly convicted people.

pushing gun control, worshiping
Chappaquiddick Teddy

I've never had much use for the Kennedys myself.

, and supporting " Hanoi John".

Assuming you mean John Kerry, I don't think he ever went to Hanoi. He spent
his tour of duty on the MeKong Delta.

Pete wrote:

In article k.net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:



"Judah" wrote in message
. ..


What, exactly, then, do conservatives want?



Freedom.



You're an idiot. they want freedom to dictate to others, who don't share
their views, what they'll do with their bodies, their relationships and
their lives.

People like you should be killed.

Somehow I _don't_ find it reassuring that a**holes exist on both sides
of the political
spectrum.

Rich Lemert

in article , Joe Young at
wrote on 4/18/04 8:54 AM:

"SNIP"

Head over to your local Jr/Sr high school history department and see for
yourself.........

Sorry, that's anecdotal evidence, not proof (actually, it's not even
anecdotal evidence, since you offered no experiences of your own).


Let see...the alternative are for you to experience what is going on in my
kids classroom through me

Okay, so you're a teacher. Please give some examples of your students being
taught at your school that Thomas Jefferson was a horrible guy.

...or actually take the time to find out first hand
in your own locale. Granted the latter may take a bit more effort on your
part...but that was the point. I think most people would be surprised how
the curriculum has changed over the past couple of decades

Okay, so show me the curriculum.

C J Campbell wrote:

If John and Peter get together and take money from Paul at gunpoint,
we call

it armed robbery. If two thousand voters get together and decide to take
money from another thousand, we call it taxation.

If, as you seem to imply, the only effect of 'taxation' was the direct
transfer of that
money from the pockets of the one thousand to the pockets of the two
thousand, you
might have an argument. Now, while I'm sure you'll be more than happy to
present
examples of where you think this is the case, I will maintain that this
would be a very
unusual situation.

So, to get to the heart of the matter, people who claim taxes are too
high, but who
refuse to consider what they are getting in return for those taxes, must
fall into one of
two groups. Either you don't wish to accept your responsibility for
living in modern
society (e.g. you want to enjoy the protection afforded by the police
and fire departments,
but you don't want to pay to maintain them), or you disagree with what
your taxes are
being spent on. It it's the latter, then quit hiding behind the tired
old "taxes are too high"
banner. Get to the point, and tell us exactly which programs you think
need to be
eliminated.

Rich Lemert

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...
in article , Joe Young at
wrote on 4/18/04 8:54 AM:

"SNIP"

Head over to your local Jr/Sr high school history department and see
for
yourself.........

Sorry, that's anecdotal evidence, not proof (actually, it's not even
anecdotal evidence, since you offered no experiences of your own).


Let see...the alternative are for you to experience what is going on in
my
kids classroom through me

Okay, so you're a teacher. Please give some examples of your students
being
taught at your school that Thomas Jefferson was a horrible guy.

...or actually take the time to find out first hand
in your own locale. Granted the latter may take a bit more effort on
your
part...but that was the point. I think most people would be surprised
how
the curriculum has changed over the past couple of decades

Okay, so show me the curriculum.


I am not a teacher...I do have two daughters... and am continually surprised
by what they bring home. One of the recent discussions pointed out that
many of our founding fathers were slave-owners and therefore were obviously
something less than honorable men...that point alone meant they unworthy of
any honor that had been bestowed upon them by the generations since. How
about the concept that we owe decedents of slaves reparations because their
ancestors were enslaved....and on and on....

The point I was attempting to make is I have not been involved in a local
school since I left high school 25 years ago. I am just surprised at the
revisionist crap I hear discussed. My point is I think there would be
others equally surprised if they would take the time to get involved
again.............

In article , wrote:

airport. And, it certainly isn't true for instrument approach
procedures
established for airports that have no commercial traffic (which is
many,
many
more instrument approach procedures than those established for
airports
with
mostly, or some, commercial operations.

How many? have you counted them?

All you have to do is flip through the NACO books and it becomes quite
apparent. The facts are self-evident. If you want a precise count, I'll
let
you do that.

yeah, it's quite evident that the airports that serve 135, 121,
and commercial traffic have more approaches than the airports that
don't. All you have to do is look. try it. How many approaches
at KBOS, KLGA, KLWM, KBED, KBUF, etc etc vs those airports that
used to have identifiers like 5B6?



The last I recall, in the now-five-year-old program for 500 GPS
approaches a
year, some 70-80% of those were established (and are being established)
for
airports that have no commercial operations except perhaps for a very
infrequent Part 135 arrival.

you might want to check those figures.

Also, you might be interested most of the GPS approaches were overlays
(meaning all the obstruction clearance work was already done). Very
few GPS approaches were defined for airports that didn't previously
have any approach, and nothing close to that 70-80% you claim.

--
Bob Noel

In article , wrote:

I believe I said that. Let me change that to: the average G/A guy who
flys a small IFR-equipped
(with IFR GPS) a 100 hours a year and often utilizies GPS instrument
approach procedures at small
airports (of which there are hundreds now, if not thousands) doesn't
begin to pay for the system.

how much does that guy cost?

--
Bob Noel

Tarver Engineering wrote:

With the left forcing the teaching of Darwin's "Origin of Species" in
public

schools, while knowing full well that it is scientifically false, makes your
comments projection, Dan.

Please point out those parts of "Origin of Species" that are false.
Chances are
you'll either find out that scientists have already recognized the
error, or that
you have mis-understood the material. If you really have found an
unrecognized
error, science will thank you for allowing it to improve our
understanding of the world.
If you are in error, you'll thank us for helping you become a
better-informed citizen.

Rich Lemert