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![]() "Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... "Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI." Correct, but they DID throw quite a few directives towards the people at Love Canal. |
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![]() "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... That's the problem with abortion, it controls the body of another. The problem with prohibiting abortion is that it controls the body of another. When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. It's not that it (or any other such) question is all that difficult, but that emotions run rampant, and cloud out thought. |
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![]() "Frank" wrote in message ... Joe Young wrote: snip So tell me Mr. Musky, what is it YOU like so much about John Kerry? He's not George W. Bush and that's enogh for me right now. Is there anyone that actually likes John Kerry? Believes in his positions on issues? Is excited about his vision for a better America? Or... are you all just a bunch of Bush haters? So in the unlikely possibility you wake up in early November, and you got rid of that bad ol' man Bush... then what are you going to do? Start hating Kerry because he is such an incapable dult. The man can articulate nothing but a loathing for his opponent. He has not yet stated his postions on anything throughout an entire primary season, nor has he done so since he locked up the nomination. Could it be his ideals, morals and leadership are so unpopular he cannot afford to have the population actually learn about them? Has anyone in history won an election by just spewing hate for the opponent? Don't winners usually have to articulate a visison, and then articulate a course of action to achive that vision? Mr. Kerry seems capable of neither.... snipped pointless partisan rant So anyone's opinions or observations that don't match yours are "partisan rants"? |
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![]() "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Neither was taxation... sigh. The Constitution does not provide for taxation? |
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![]() Gig Giacona wrote: snip That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items that WE ALL use every day. There may be no supporting argument to say that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there were no government (read general public) intervention. The people that are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work (our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI." You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of modern technology come from? -- Remove "2PLANES" to reply. |
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![]() "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... "Newps" wrote in message ... "Andrew Gideon" wrote in message online.com... Then why is the state involved in education at all, in your opinion? Or is that too a mistake? The state should be involved, the feds should not. Total waste of money. Why should the state be involved, either? Exactly.......... |
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![]() "Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of modern technology come from? Private schools. |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "ET" wrote in message ... if someone is in a "civil union" or just are a "gay couple" then they are not "family" and can be kept out of your hospital room if you are critical. Not happy with a hospital's visitation policy? Take it up with the damn hospital! Great solution Steven... that is logical, simple and to the point. But then how can you push forward a political agenda when you do something that is logical, simple and to the point? |
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![]() "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. One wonders why it's a question at all. Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship? If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case in a democracy, shouldn't the majority rule? |
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... That's the problem with abortion, it controls the body of another. The problem with prohibiting abortion is that it controls the body of another. When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. I think it is a pretty long held principle that you can't exercise your rights in violation of another's. At least this was the priniciple prior to the legalization of abortion. This is the exact same reason you can't exercise your 1st amendment right to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. Matt |
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