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Old April 21st 04, 12:57 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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"Dan Truesdell" wrote in message
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the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child
labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that
this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the
intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of
the "Free Market Economy" to an end.

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That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be
invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI."

Correct, but they DID throw quite a few directives towards the people at
Love Canal.


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Old April 21st 04, 12:59 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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That's the problem with abortion, it
controls the body of another.


The problem with prohibiting abortion is that it controls the body of
another.

When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious

background
and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose?

If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago.

It's not that it (or any other such) question is all that difficult, but
that emotions run rampant, and cloud out thought.


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Old April 21st 04, 01:01 AM
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So tell me Mr. Musky, what is it YOU like so much about John Kerry?


He's not George W. Bush and that's enogh for me right now.


Is there anyone that actually likes John Kerry? Believes in his positions
on issues? Is excited about his vision for a better America? Or... are
you all just a bunch of Bush haters? So in the unlikely possibility you
wake up in early November, and you got rid of that bad ol' man Bush... then
what are you going to do? Start hating Kerry because he is such an
incapable dult. The man can articulate nothing but a loathing for his
opponent. He has not yet stated his postions on anything throughout an
entire primary season, nor has he done so since he locked up the nomination.
Could it be his ideals, morals and leadership are so unpopular he cannot
afford to have the population actually learn about them? Has anyone in
history won an election by just spewing hate for the opponent? Don't
winners usually have to articulate a visison, and then articulate a course
of action to achive that vision? Mr. Kerry seems capable of neither....


snipped pointless partisan rant


So anyone's opinions or observations that don't match yours are "partisan
rants"?



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Old April 21st 04, 01:03 AM
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Neither was taxation... sigh.


The Constitution does not provide for taxation?


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Old April 21st 04, 01:03 AM
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Gig Giacona wrote:
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That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a
selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a
general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government
intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items
that WE ALL use every day. There may be no supporting argument to say
that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are
many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there
were no government (read general public) intervention. The people that
are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work
(our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in
the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child
labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that
this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the
intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of
the "Free Market Economy" to an end.

snip



That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be
invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI."



You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI
at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of
modern technology come from?



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Old April 21st 04, 01:04 AM
Joe Young
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Then why is the state involved in education at all, in your opinion?

Or
is
that too a mistake?


The state should be involved, the feds should not. Total waste of

money.

Why should the state be involved, either?


Exactly..........


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Old April 21st 04, 01:05 AM
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"Dan Truesdell" wrote in message
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You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have
an MRI at this time without public schools? Just where would the
developers of modern technology come from?


Private schools.


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Old April 21st 04, 01:09 AM
Joe Young
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"ET" wrote in message
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if someone is in a "civil union" or just are a "gay couple" then they
are not "family" and can be kept out of your hospital room if you are
critical.


Not happy with a hospital's visitation policy? Take it up with the damn
hospital!



Great solution Steven... that is logical, simple and to the point. But then
how can you push forward a political agenda when you do something that is
logical, simple and to the point?


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Old April 21st 04, 01:15 AM
Joe Young
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By
religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose?

If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago.


One wonders why it's a question at all.


Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship?



If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast
majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case in a
democracy, shouldn't the majority rule?



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Old April 21st 04, 01:25 AM
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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That's the problem with abortion, it
controls the body of another.



The problem with prohibiting abortion is that it controls the body of
another.

When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background
and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose?

If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago.



I think it is a pretty long held principle that you can't exercise your
rights in violation of another's. At least this was the priniciple
prior to the legalization of abortion. This is the exact same reason
you can't exercise your 1st amendment right to yell "FIRE" in a crowded
theater.


Matt

 




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