class C and B comms on sectionals?

I don't have an operational problem with using the chart and I know
that approach control won't go crazy if I somehow manage to use the
wrong frequency.

My issue is being told by a designated examiner something that a:
doesn't make sense and b: she can't back up with a source

It's not the radials that's the problem, it's the selected starting
point from where the bearings in the legend should extend. Claiming
that the bearings should extend from anything other than the primary
airport for the airspace seems crazy to me.

Apart from the fact that some airports don't have VORs, even if it
does, your not flying to a VOR, you're flying to the airport and the
airport and VOR don't necessarily have to be co-located so to me, the
reference point naturally should be the airport and not any nav-aid
that happens to be in the area.

But like I said, I'd like to find a proper source where I can read
about these charts.


On 2004-04-24 12:33:25 -0400, "Steven P. McNicoll"
said:


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...

Someone else answered that. You don't need a VOR receiver to
be able to know where a VOR radial is, when flying VFR.


No navigation equipment is required for VFR entry of Class B or C airspace.
How does one know where a VOR radial is without using any navigation
equipment?

"Magnus" wrote in message
...

I don't have an operational problem with using the chart and I know
that approach control won't go crazy if I somehow manage to use the
wrong frequency.

My issue is being told by a designated examiner something that a:
doesn't make sense and b: she can't back up with a source


Indicators that she's quite probably mistaken.

Well then. there you have it..

A DE gave you bad information

(s)he is human. It happens. Old Wives tales get passed on and bad
information perpetuates itself.

SHould it happen? No. Does it happen? Yes.

What can you do? If you REALLY want to, refer it to the FSDO and they
can point it out to the examiner. You didnt (improperly) receive a
notice of disapproval over it did you? You have your ticket so go out
there and use it, and chalk this up to experience.

Dave

Magnus wrote:
I don't have an operational problem with using the chart and I know that
approach control won't go crazy if I somehow manage to use the wrong
frequency.

My issue is being told by a designated examiner something that a:
doesn't make sense and b: she can't back up with a source

It's not the radials that's the problem, it's the selected starting
point from where the bearings in the legend should extend. Claiming that
the bearings should extend from anything other than the primary airport
for the airspace seems crazy to me.

Apart from the fact that some airports don't have VORs, even if it does,
your not flying to a VOR, you're flying to the airport and the airport
and VOR don't necessarily have to be co-located so to me, the reference
point naturally should be the airport and not any nav-aid that happens
to be in the area.

But like I said, I'd like to find a proper source where I can read about
these charts.


On 2004-04-24 12:33:25 -0400, "Steven P. McNicoll"
said:


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...


Someone else answered that. You don't need a VOR receiver to
be able to know where a VOR radial is, when flying VFR.


No navigation equipment is required for VFR entry of Class B or C
airspace.
How does one know where a VOR radial is without using any navigation
equipment?