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Old May 5th 04, 12:59 AM
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"Jeffrey Voight" wrote in message


Don't forget ADIZ requirements. You need a special ADIZ flight plan
in addition to any IFR or VFR plan you might have. ADIZ flight
clearance lasts for two hours (from what I've been told by the
WX-BRIEF folk).


Minor point: IFR plans do not require a separate ADIZ flight plan. Also,
there's no such thing as a DC ADIZ clearance. ADIZ flight plans may
"live" for up to two hours prior to activation (not clearance), but try to
anticipate your time of arrival accurately.

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Old May 5th 04, 10:39 AM
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 19:51:31 +0100, "Paul Sengupta"
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(You could also take a cab to Udvar-Hazy as posted earlier, then from
UH take the shuttle bus to NASM on the Mall. Likely you'd have to pay
$14 round trip. Tix at the Imax counter. The museum itself is free.)


The shuttle is $7 return. I have to pass on the taxi price...no idea.


Right, sorry. I went out on the early bus, before tickets were being
sold. I went to the Imax counter to buy a return, and of course I was
paying for both ways. It is indeed $7, which makes it a fantastic
bargain, even for a one-way trip.

I suppose it would be difficult or nigh impossible to get a return
ticket on the say 5 p.m. bus to the city.

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Old May 5th 04, 10:45 AM
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By the way, DC metro trains are not
as common as NYC trains. Don't expect them to take you to any corner of
town.


Before the Metro opened, I booked hotels according to the bus system,
which like most bus systems is very hard to understand for an
outsider. (Century City was a good choice; the bus dropped me at the
sculpture garden Post-Metro, I booked hotels according to Metro
stops. It's a wonderful system--clean, safe, economical--and goes out
to DCA, though not to IAD.

From IAD, I take the shuttle bus to East Falls Church. Same from
BWI--there's a bus every hour to the final Metro station to the north.
It does take an hour or two, but it's cheap and easy and runs on
weekends, unlike the Light Rail train.


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Old May 5th 04, 12:05 PM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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I suppose it would be difficult or nigh impossible to get a return
ticket on the say 5 p.m. bus to the city.


I got a ticket for the 5pm to the city because you had to book a
return and that was available...tickets purchased at about 10.15am
for the 10.30am out to the museum. I only really wanted one way
as I was meeting Margy at the museum and we were going to meet
Ron and go out for dinner after...so I didn't use my return. They
wouldn't sell me a single ticket or a "not specified" return...!

Paul


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Old May 5th 04, 12:12 PM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

By the way, DC metro trains are not
as common as NYC trains. Don't expect them to take you to any corner of
town.


Before the Metro opened, I booked hotels according to the bus system,
which like most bus systems is very hard to understand for an
outsider. (Century City was a good choice; the bus dropped me at the
sculpture garden Post-Metro, I booked hotels according to Metro
stops. It's a wonderful system--clean, safe, economical--and goes out
to DCA, though not to IAD.


The metro in D.C. was great. Sometimes left you standing for a
good while though...could do with more seats! :-) Much easier to
find the right platform than NYC. First trip on the NYC Metro, this
"uptown"/"downtown" thing confused me until I looked at the end
stations on a map...why can't they have northbound/southbound
like the rest of the world? They have eastbound/westbound.

From IAD, I take the shuttle bus to East Falls Church. Same from
BWI--there's a bus every hour to the final Metro station to the north.
It does take an hour or two, but it's cheap and easy and runs on
weekends, unlike the Light Rail train.


The Amtrak metroliner I took from D.C. to New York on Saturday
stopped at BWI.

Paul (now back in the UK)


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Old May 5th 04, 02:44 PM
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Paul Sengupta wrote:

First trip on the NYC Metro, this
"uptown"/"downtown" thing confused me until I looked at the end
stations on a map...why can't they have northbound/southbound
like the rest of the world?


Well, it's simpler for them. The numbers of the streets get higher going north, so,
if you're at 34th Street and want to get to 55th Street, you go uptown.

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Old May 5th 04, 09:30 PM
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"aaronw" wrote in message ...

If you're going downtown downtown, almost all the airports are equally
useless (except for the VA ones, they are probably more useless, and
College Park, which is on the metro).


You can't go into College Park unless you're got the special DC3 authorization.
So your question probably becomes, which is the easiest airport -
Metro transfer?

GAI - Shady Grove
W00 - New Carrolton
W18/FME (they're practically nextdoor) - Greenbelt

IAD - Vienna


Actually, for IAD, the best shot is West Falls Church. There's a motor coach that takes
you directly there.


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Old May 6th 04, 02:02 AM
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 05:45:08 -0400, Cub Driver
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From IAD, I take the shuttle bus to East Falls Church. Same from
BWI--there's a bus every hour to the final Metro station to the north.
It does take an hour or two, but it's cheap and easy and runs on
weekends, unlike the Light Rail train.


Getting into some pretty hardcore topic drift, but the Light Rail runs
on weekends... It's the MARC that does not run on weekends and seems
to be completely useless except for M-F rush hour.

The Metrobus from Greenbelt to BWI is I believe the B30 bus -
www.wmata.com for details on that.

aw
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Old May 6th 04, 12:00 PM
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It does take an hour or two, but it's cheap and easy and runs on
weekends, unlike the Light Rail train.


The Amtrak metroliner I took from D.C. to New York on Saturday
stopped at BWI.


Yes, the heavy stuff runs 7 days a week. But the schedule isn't as
frequent, and I believe it's more expensive.

(The bus/Metro combo is even cheaper than Light Rail. $2.50 for the
bus, and I suppose the Metro is a couple bucks.)

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Old May 6th 04, 09:30 PM
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(The bus/Metro combo is even cheaper than Light Rail. $2.50 for the
bus, and I suppose the Metro is a couple bucks.)


For Light Rail, read MARC. (Never did cotton to them acronyms.) Sorry!

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