Pinckneyville Pix

Del Rawlins wrote
Pac, you appear to be his last remaining friend on this forum and it is
only a matter of time before he alienates you, too. And I didn't see
any attempt at stifling free speech.

So you don't think that if I repeatedly asked people to "Shun" you,
that that is not a sad attempt to silence you?

Del, I'm just am chafing from this constant which hunt by what appear
to me to be low qualification people. Without a moderator, It's up to
all of us to determine the most important characteristics of expert
posters on this NG. I submit that building experience, ratings,
relevant education and writing ability are far more important than who
showed up at somebody's hangar or who kisses the most butt of the
regulars on a weekly basis or who uses the best table manners in an
attempt to become popular. Remember: when in doubt: defer to
substance and experience; not to superficial appearances. This is not
to say that anyone can't participate (even Bernie the Butt****, who
nobody likes.) It's just that I think it's wrong to let "Nobodybird"
and her liberated males sabotage the NG to satisfy her personal
vendettas.

Here's the proof:
"Nobody" above answered my attack on "Shunmaster" as if were a direct
attack on her:

"Bullies are deplorable and unamerican, not me."

I never accused the "Nobody" character of being unamerican. I made
that charge against "Shunmaster."
"Nobody" *is* "Shunmaster," who is Snowbird. You're not so invisible
after all. But this is what happens when you use multiple identities.
Sooner or later you get mixed up. Pathetic behavior! I feel you owe
me an apology for this sad dishonest subterfuge as well as BWB.

If I'm reading you correctly, I'll never get that apology. This is
why I have no respect for you Snowbird when you play these kind of
dishonest head games with people. I think you drove BWB crazy with
this kind of mean-spirited posting.

Anyway these are all just my opinions only,

pacplyer - out

haven't paid my dues where it counts and they may be right.

You ought to jump in when you have something to contribute. Your experience
and attitude makes you sound like a pretty all-round smart guy.

The worst case is some particular idea may be way different in boatbuilding
than airplane building, which should come out in meaningful discussion...
Oh well, it's not like you are trying to portray yourself as an airplane
expert.

The best possible case is a fresh (to airplane building) idea.

Most likely, something in between, and somebody will read it and think,
"Hey, I hadn't thought of that."

A lot of the best tricks on fixing cars, for example, are the ones that make
long menial tasks (things like stuck bolts) easy. You can't learn stuff
like that from a textbook, you either waste all kinds of time figuring it
out yourself, or, my point- somebody can teach you.


My .02


I agree Gary. I have no issue with you at all amigo. You of all the
people who attended PJY this year would have been the dude I would
have liked to spend my time trying to learn something from. And... I
just love April. How could anyone be as nice as her?

Nope, you are not the type that I'm aiming at. You have a ton of
knowledge and experience, although, you've never built anything that
flies, you have kicked ass on the rest of the stuff you build. In
fact I take my hat off to you for what you've done...and I know a lot
of what you've done because we've talked about it here in Vegas.

Besides, you are a physicist. How in the hell could I not like a
brother.

BWB

Well, I'm the guy who flew that Twin Comanche in - because my
homebuilt glider wasn't up to the trip. And you know - from where I'm
sitting, I think the Moon Man has a point. You gonna make fun of me
now?

Michael

Well, what's the ****in' point? Moon Man is dog **** as a pilot. You
wanna lend your twin Commanche to him so he can show us all how he can
fly it? I think you might be stupid if you did.

Better let your insurance man know before hand.

So, what's your point? I don't follow? I've owned three twin
Commanches in my life. Big deal. A twin Commanche is a slug on the
way to nowhere nowadays, but I'll bet you a grand that Moon Man
couldn't even start the engines if you put his lard ass in the
cockpit.

In fact I'll bet that 95% of the idiots who read your bull **** here
couldn't start the ****ing engines if their lives depended upon it.

BWB

Wheather I agree with the topic or poster or not I sure am not going to
"SHUN" because some anonymous coward says we should "SHUN". This is twice
it has been called for by an anonymous coward. And that is what you posters
that post anonymously are...."COWARDS"


Yep. It's Sydney by my evaluation of the headers. Good Call Jerry.

BWB

The only problem with that approach, is that this entire dispute is
personal down to the core. There are no merits, and nothing to be
gained from it.

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Del Rawlins-

Then why don't you get the **** off the thread Del? You gotta put in
your ****ing 2 cents worth. As far as I'm concerned, you are just
nothing but another illiterate, unexperienced fraud, trying to gleen
some gratification by seeing your words in print.

BWB

You are right, it has become personal, when names are called. I am done
with it, but you may notice I _did_ refrain from the name calling.

A pity anyone feels they have to enter this realm, and tear it down. Nothing
is gained.


Good. You don't have a ****in' clue.

Bye!

BWB

On 2 Jun 2004 01:07:37 GMT, Del Rawlins
wrote:

In Morgans wrote:

A pity anyone feels they have to enter this realm, and tear it down.
Nothing is gained.

Particularly when they could just as easily build it up, if they chose
to do so.

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Del Rawlins-

Ah yes, here are the pinnacles of wisdom, the pontificators of fact,
the creators of the "Mood" of RAH.

Give me a break. You make me want to go take a ****.

BWB

Hypothetically....
Let us say that you got under someone's skin here typing out undeniable
TRUTHS using your real name. Let's also say it offends particular
person(s) sufficiently that it causes them sufficient heartburn to
bring legal action against you for your FREE SPEECH that is known to be
true and correct. Let us further state that they even openly admit the
only reason they are hauling you into court is an attempt to spend you
into the poor house. What would you REALLY do to defend your FREE
SPEECH? We already have your answer, hypocrite. You are here
anonymously, because you are too cowardly to spend a small portion of
your well heeled airline pilot income to take on Internet bullies that
could threaten your right to LEGITIMATE AND TRUE FREE SPEECH!

Bullies are deplorable and unamerican, not me.
From a point of simple and logical economics...
Bullies deserve to be shunned/ignored, don't you think?

P.S.
Honesty, like beauty, is sometimes in the eye of the beholder.


Yep. You call it Honesty, when you bash and insult and call things as
facts that are not correct?. Like calling someone psychotic in a
public forum, when they post under their real name? This is not in
the spirit of what America is all about old man. You don't have the
freedom to trash someone just because you don't like them. You don't
have the right to post [in public] your illiterate diagnosis of their
mental capability or capacity. That's not freedom of speech, that's
libel [slander if spoken]. I don't like this post from you and I know
who you are. You have my attorney's name, why don't you email him
with your complaint. I told you long ago that I was represented by
counsel. If you have a complaint, then forward it to my lawyer on
this matter.

Well, on second thought, don't bother Bob. I'm about to take the BAR
here in Nevada myself. I'll bring you to justice all on my own if you
continue to **** me off. I told you I have three years [statute of
limitations] from your libelous-insulting posts and your accusations.
What are you doing here, ****ing with me? Do you know how easy it is
to find out and trace the entire path of this post? Jesus, Bob, go to
tea-time you old ****er and let it be.

Don't make me mad to the point where I make an example out of you just
to show this ****-ball group that I can.

I've told you this in the past and I'm telling you this again.
Disappear or it will cost you.

Do you hear that loud and clear you muther ****er?

Everytime I come in here you have to insult me or **** with me. Just
go fly your airplane and understand that you ****ed up. You will
never win this one, you rotten old asshole. Just give up, or I'll
make you my full time hobby.

And, you know what Bob? I really don't want to do that. I actually
like some things about you. So, as Rambo said in that movie Rambo-1,
"Just let it be" cocksucker. "Just let it be."

BWB

Don't even respond to the cowardly anonymous assholes of the world
Pac. I didn't lose "My last friend."

****, Ammeter and I have been buds for way too long to ever let some
little ****ing post on this chicken **** ng to EVER come between us.

All friends disagree and all friends argue. Ant Eater and I are no
different...neither is that ****ing asshole Oysterhouse, although I
might kick his fat, bloated, gelatinous ass when I see him next (which
will be at my home in Utah this summer).

I love em both and they know it. Nobody here knows what goes on
behind the scenes. **** the RAHian's who try to infer what the
greates like Oyster, Amp Meter and Phillips are really doing.
BBBBWWAAHHHAHHAHA, Just sit and wonder, you borring muther ****ers.

It's all a con Pac. The ng is one thing, what happens in private is
usually just a big laugh about what all the ****ing morons here
consider reality.

Now, let's see who we can pick on.

BWB

On 31 May 2004 10:55:43 -0700, (pacplyer) wrote:

I'd say Jay's point below is most valid here. Jay, from what little
I've read about this dispute it appears to be about nothing. But to a
guy in a rusty old hangar, where you park on a ramp and who should pay
for things based on good fortune it can seem like the most important
thing in the world. I wasn't there, but I've seen this kind of
twin-engine envy at little airports all across the country. A guy who
is generous flys all the way across the country just to be treated
like a cheapskate by someone less fortunate; I suspect that kind of
treatment stays with you. My guess is that this is Bill's beef. The
other aspect that I agree with Bill on is that it is inappropriate to
be repeatedly talked down to by a Grumman Tiger wheel-pant
"screw-extractor" when your background is decades of homebuilding. If
the subject was microbiology then the expected roles would rightly be
reversed. But the subject here is homebuilding, and I for one desire
to listen to Bill, not Sydney. Perhaps some degree of private
pilot/nonbuilder humility is a resonable expectation by BWB.

Just my opinion. Glad everyone had a good time at Pikneyville (sp?)

And Jay, don't push the thunderstorm alley envelope buddy! Cut those
babies a wide berth!

pacplyer

Yeah, you got it Pac. You see through the **** because you have the
time. These folks will never get half of the meaning you had in the
above post. I know you took a lot of time to think it out and you hit
it dead center buddy. You just won't make a dent in the general
dumbing down of the RAH group. Over the years, it's the worst now,
than I've ever seen it. Almost none of the regulars who have built
anything even read this group anymore as lurkers. They've all given
up long ago as the Sydneys' , and the John Johnsons' of the world take
command, plan the picnics, insult the old timers with the real
experience and mooch whatever they can in the whole process in the way
of money, beer or support for the even, like hauling free rides in
high performance aircraft.

Hell, some ****ing asshole above said, "Phillips didn't even own the
310." What the hell does that have to do with it? I supported the
party by flying FREE rides and I bought the gas (and the beer for the
party). You see what the mentality is Pac. The free rides and the
fun is all negated because I didn't have title the airplane in
"Morgan's" view.

Well, Jim from NC. Why don't you send me a check for the gas, then
I'll understand that you understand what I'm ****ed off about, you
cocksucker.

Have fun trying to find anything meaningful here Pac. My hat goes off
to you for trying. This ****ing group of moronic idiots is more fun
to read that watching six monkeys try to **** a football.

BWB