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Old May 14th 04, 02:56 PM
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I'm a newly minted PP-ASEL and had a disturbing experience the other day.
I've begun renting at the field where I trained, a busy class D airport.
It's usually not possible to do pattern work there because it's so busy.
Returning from a local flight, I noticed that there was very little

traffic,
so I asked to do some touch & gos; I was making left traffic using runway
16. On the 3rd or 4th go, I noticed that a craft was cleared for takeoff

on
runway 11. I knew immediately that our paths would cross. I could not

see
the other plane as it was behind me; the other pilot was warned by the

tower
that I was in the pattern making left traffic. The other pilot finally

saw
me as I was turning crosswing to downwind (heading 70 to 340) and he
indicated he was turning right from his takeoff heading 110. When I

caught
sight of him, I don't think we were more than 100'-200' apart. At this
point, I said "traffic in sight" and tower replied "maintain visual
separation."


So far this is all normal VFR tower stuff.



If I had it to do again, I would have left the pattern and
headed outbound heading somewhere between 160 (my departure heading) and

110
(the other pilot's) until we had positive visual identification.


This would only make it worse.



I'd be especially interested in comments from Gene Whitt, who said ATC has
been trying to kill him for 40 years, and anyone who might recognize the
airport from the runways described.



I worked at a busy VFR tower for four years. That's exactly what happens
every day. We're still trying to get Gene, he's a little slippery though.


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Old May 14th 04, 06:02 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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If I had it to do again, I would have left the pattern and
headed outbound heading somewhere between 160 (my departure heading) and

110
(the other pilot's) until we had positive visual identification.


This would only make it worse.


How so? I was proposing to follow a non-crossing trajectory.


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Old May 14th 04, 11:54 PM
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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If I had it to do again, I would have left the pattern and
headed outbound heading somewhere between 160 (my departure heading)

and
110
(the other pilot's) until we had positive visual identification.


This would only make it worse.


How so? I was proposing to follow a non-crossing trajectory.


It's a busy place. It makes no sense to leave the pattern and get in more
peoples way. It is easy for a departing aircraft to miss another that he
can plainly see.


 




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