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Old May 14th 04, 11:13 PM
John T
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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The X-Prize competition is a race to be the "first" to
do something that's been done before.


What non-government entity has reached outer space (sub-orbital or not)?
That's the largest part of the "not been there nor done that" aspect. The
two-week turnaround is part of the attempt to demonstrate a viable reusable
craft which would encourage commercialization of the activity.

The goal of the X-Prize, as I understand it, is to promote commercial access
to and use of space with a focus on space tourism. There are private launch
facilities, but none of them are for manned spacecraft. All manned space
flight is performed by government agencies that many consider to be far more
wasteful than a commercial enterprise would be.

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Old May 14th 04, 11:41 PM
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What non-government entity has reached outer space (sub-orbital
or not)?


None, but that's irrelevant.



That's the largest part of the "not been there nor done that" aspect.


Why?



The two-week turnaround is part of the attempt to demonstrate a
viable reusable craft which would encourage commercialization of
the activity.


The X-15 had turnaround times less than two weeks.


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Old May 15th 04, 12:37 AM
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

The X-15 had turnaround times less than two weeks.


It did, after some lower and slower flights.

Not after the high-altitude flights, though, and the average gap between
"hard" flights of the same airframes was a month and a half.

They also had a tendency to need major parts of the airframe (tail and
wing surfaces) replaced or refurbished after the more demanding flights.

Not to mention they were doing this with a much smaller payload.

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Old May 15th 04, 01:03 AM
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It did, after some lower and slower flights.

Not after the high-altitude flights, though, and the average gap between
"hard" flights of the same airframes was a month and a half.


That it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't possible.


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Old May 15th 04, 01:13 AM
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between
"hard" flights of the same airframes was a month and a half.


That it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't possible.


Now it devovled to "coulda/woulda/shoulda"

lmao

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Old May 15th 04, 01:17 AM
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Now it devovled to "coulda/woulda/shoulda"


What is significant about a relaunch within two weeks?


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Old May 15th 04, 01:21 AM
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Now it devovled to "coulda/woulda/shoulda"


What is significant about a relaunch within two weeks?


ever heard of the time value of money? or perhaps "lets get those customers
lined up like cattle" ? MOOOO em out

face it...your either a troll or a person with no vision whatsoever....

Bllll
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Old May 15th 04, 03:08 AM
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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It did, after some lower and slower flights.

Not after the high-altitude flights, though, and the average gap
between "hard" flights of the same airframes was a month and a
half.


That it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't possible.


But it also doesn't mean that it *was* possible.

Since it didn't happen, then the burden of proof is on *your* side.

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Old May 15th 04, 03:53 AM
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But it also doesn't mean that it *was* possible.

Since it didn't happen, then the burden of proof is on *your* side.


I thought I had already done that. The X-15 was turned in less than two
weeks and it flew above 100 km. Put those together and you've got a
spacecraft being reused in less than two weeks. If there was something to
be gained by actually flying it twice above 100 km within a two week period
it would have been done.


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Old May 15th 04, 05:33 AM
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In article .net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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But it also doesn't mean that it *was* possible.

Since it didn't happen, then the burden of proof is on *your* side.


I thought I had already done that.


Not even close.

The X-15 was turned in less than two
weeks and it flew above 100 km. Put those together and you've got a
spacecraft being reused in less than two weeks.


But - and we've told you this a couple of times so far - IT NEVER
HAPPENED IN THE X-15 PROGRAM.

If there was something to be gained by actually flying it twice above
100 km within a two week period it would have been done.


Well, according to you, and only you.

Considering how they actually ran the X-15 program, if this were true,
they would have tried it anyway. They *liked* fast turnarounds in that
program, especially at the end.

They didn't, therefore they couldn't.

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