Pinckneyville Pix

Sleeping in airplanes. Man, you sure brought back some unpleasant
memories. When a "phoon" hits the south pacific and you're hauling
time sensitive trash, you do exactly that: you divert to a different
city and sit there in the ****ing airplane until it passes. At least
that's what you do at the ****ty non-scheds. My neck and back are
hurting right now just from thinking about it. I'm swatting
mosquitoes and not eating for 16 hrs straight. Thanks Bill.

Wait, wait. This story is not about homebuilding! Nice going! You
stirred up the RAH anthill BWB! And now I'm the guy standing in it!
**** you Badwater Bill! I'm not your friend anymore!

pacplyer


Yeah, dude.... I get a kick out of all the people who think that
being a professional pilot is a romantic endeavor. Boy, do they have
a rude awakening if they ever try it. But, Pac, I can top your
sleeping in the seat at some diverted airport ****-hole in the world
to avoid a phoon.

How about working for AFTAC on their 24 hour missions to the North
Pole? They would sit up there in orbit (driving in circles) and wait
for the Russians to test their nukes and vent into the troposphere.
Then the fun was on. You'd have to fly this piece of old trashy ****
(Boeing 707) EC-135 through the radioactive dust and sample it.

Anyone who's ever flown a 24 hour mission knows what it's like to want
to just ****ing scream and take a can opener to the fuselage to get
out. I don't have a clue how those guys who went to the moon and back
ever did that. They must have been on some powerful clostrophobic
inhibiting drugs. Christ, they had to even **** in a space suit to
boot.

If I never participate in any form of government flying again for as
long as I live, it will be too soon. In fact I NEVER want to fly
anybody or anything commercially ever again. I fly for my own
pleasure and my own edification.

Jesus, I did it again. I posted about something not related to
homebuilding. I wonder if anyone else has ever done that here?

BWB

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:29:48 GMT, "nauga" wrote:

Bill Phillips wrote:

BTW - what did YOU do that weekend?

...Would you believe that I was with Jim
Campbell at Mohave just as Burt Rutan's boys were
about to make a 55 second burn and attained
212,000 feet msl at apogee in their space
ship?

Cool story but irrelevant to the question at hand
since there was more than a week between the two events.

Spaceship One Flight #3, the high altitude flight: 13 May 04
The weekend Michael asked about: 21-23 May 04

Related: The first space attempt is scheduled for 21 June
and is open to the public. Don't need a press pass or
an invite to be JAFO.

Dave 'calendar boy' Hyde

Yep, you are right Nagua it was the week before. When you get my age,
you are lucky if you can remember what year it is or if you took a
**** today or not.

Since all of you find my life so interesting as you sit at home and do
nothing, I have to apologize for getting the days confused. I should
have known that some anal retentive engineer would take issue with
such a post and bounce me on it. Here's an accounting of my time. Of
course I feel obligated to do this for all of you who have no lives.

Actually after the Mohave run, my buddy Jim Campbell and I were at
that Air Traffic controller's convention here in Vegas. Those were
the days following Burt's run. However, you won't expect this, so I
have to tell you the following:

The famous weekend of the PJY picnic I was in Sierra Vista, Arizona
just south of Tomestone on the Mexican border working with some
engineers and the Border Patrol on the design of special seismic
sensors. Since all of this is the business of RAH, I must pontificate
further.

I have a great solution to protecting the border using R-44 Raven
II's. The problem is, that it doesn't cost enough. Homeland Security
hands out billion dollar grants like popcorn but 100 , R-44 police
helicopters at $500k each puts 100 observation platforms in the air
for $50 million. It's just too cheap to get their attention. Also,
you can run them 2000 hours a year for another million each. So, for
$50 million in equipment and about another $100 million per year to
operate them, you seal the Mexican-U.S. border.

During Viet Nam, I had buddies who flew P-3's over the Ho Chi Mhin
trail dropping sonobouys. The sonobouys had parachutes on them and
would land in the upper canopy of the jungle and start recording
sound. We'd fly back by the next day and interrogate them. In this
way we could find out where the gooks were building up for a big
offensive.

The borders can be monitored in the same way. You bury a geophone
every 500 feet along the whole border. When you get a hit, you fly
out in a ($0.5 million) Robie R-44 instead of a ($8 million) Black
Hawk, and take action. you get 16 aerial platforms for the price of
one that way. You can even use the internet as your relay network.
The geophones transmit to a repeater that sends the data up to Hughes
99 west and puts it on the Internet. In that way, you can listen to
the whole border at once. No fences, no walls, and even if they
tunnel, the geophones will hear them. You don't even need to put
geophones along the entire border, you can start out putting them just
at the hot spots

If Homeland Security wanted to put these sensors along the entire
border, it would only cost about $4 million bucks. That plus the
helicopters which are all factory equipped with FLIR and video
xmitters to ground stations, gives you live video of the border over
the Internet too. It's all so simple because of the Internet, it's
actually a trivial thing to implement.

The real problem with my solution is that it just doesn't cost enough.
Even if you include Canada you are only looking at about $150 million
in helicopters and $200 million per year to opperate them. It's just
too cheap and DHS (Dept. of Homeland Security) would never buy it
because they want to give away billion dollar grants to study the
problem. Others want the borders to be open and that's why there are
2 illegal aliens coming across the Mexican border each minute of each
day.

So, go figure.

And that's what I was doing and where I was on the weekend of the
famous annual PJY picnic. I hope this meets with all of your
approvals. I was trying to do something positive for my country, but
I have no idea how much I did or how much they listened.

BWB

On 2 Jun 2004 20:59:24 GMT, Del Rawlins
wrote:

In pacplyer wrote:

Are you really new here? Now "Nobody" has turned into none other than
"Carburetor Heat Bob" "Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!" 50 years of flight
and he doesn't know about temperature dewpoint carb icing.

Sorry old timer, but you asked for it. This dishonest Subterfuge is
beneath you isn't it really? Aren't you a little too old to be
playing childish games?

Did you actually spend enough time reading the archives to pull that out
or was I wrong and you really are Bill?


No, I really am Bill.

BWB

Don't you remember? Pac was such a big fan of RAH that he lurked for
10 years before he started posting twice a week. And he did it from
Manila, where there weren't any ISP's until 1999. That way he can
remember things that happened on RAH in 1994, and still not be Bill.


BBWWAHAHAHAHHAA You morons crack me up. Just nothing else to do in
life eh?

Did you ever think that I may have told Pac about how Urban screamed
"Mayday, Mayday, Mayday all the way back to PJY that day? Then O'ring
told him to try his carburetor heat and that seemed to fix the
problem? I guess there's just too much to do in that Air Coup
(hicup). Hell, you have all the emergency checklists, hydraulic
systems, leading edge devices, flaps, roll trim, autopilot, EFIS,
communications, Navigation. It almost sounds like too much for even
me, the great Badwater.

BWB

"Badwater Bill" wrote in message
.. .

Well, interesting as usual but why don't you say who you're replying to in
your conversation with someone about Pac lurking for 10 years and Barnyard
yelling 'mayday.' It makes us have to go dig up the dullard's post by
trial and error.

You DID say who you were replying to in your answer to DullDel the Dildo.

"Badwater Bill" wrote in message
.. .

Snipped

BWB


Wow,

You can be both interesting and boring at the same time!

-cj

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message ...
On 2 Jun 2004 20:59:24 GMT, Del Rawlins
wrote:

In pacplyer wrote:

Are you really new here? Now "Nobody" has turned into none other than
"Carburetor Heat Bob" "Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!" 50 years of flight
and he doesn't know about temperature dewpoint carb icing.

Sorry old timer, but you asked for it. This dishonest Subterfuge is
beneath you isn't it really? Aren't you a little too old to be
playing childish games?

Did you actually spend enough time reading the archives to pull that out
or was I wrong and you really are Bill?


No, I really am Bill.


No you're not. I really am Bill!

Billplyer
BWB

(Badwater Bill) wrote snip

The famous weekend of the PJY picnic I was in Sierra Vista, Arizona
just south of Tomestone on the Mexican border working with some
engineers and the Border Patrol on the design of special seismic
sensors.

snip

And that's what I was doing and where I was on the weekend of the
famous annual PJY picnic. I hope this meets with all of your
approvals. I was trying to do something positive for my country, but
I have no idea how much I did or how much they listened.

BWB

Ya see what I mean? Here's this guy again tackling a major U.S.
security problem for the benefit of all of us who live in this
country; and all you guys can do is tear him down, time after time,
exaggerate his minor transgressions and faults and go out of your way
to **** him off. Hell, if I had to deal with the slow turtles in the
Federal Government any more than I do now, I'd be a mean, cranky MoFoe
too. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

I just don't know. With what I've witnessed here the last few days, I
have to wonder if this Captain Zoom guy didn't get the same dishonest
posting treatment I just got. That seems to be what Bill thinks. But
there's just no stopping the Lynch Mob when it starts picking up
steam. I'm guilty too. Even though I thought "Captain Zoom" was
probably the fictional character played by you pranksters at first, I
went back and forth on whether or not a real person could really be
jumping off buildings, playing doctor etc. It really seemed like a
new script for a sequel movie. Bill and archive reading confirmed
that a real person, however fallible, was behind these lashings. It
appears to me that no stone was left unturned trying to discredit this
guy but I was unable to figure out what started the Zoom witch-hunt.
Anybody know?

As always, all my post are my opinions only.

pacplyer

"nauga" wrote in message link.net...
Bill Phillips wrote:

BTW - what did YOU do that weekend?

...Would you believe that I was with Jim
Campbell at Mohave just as Burt Rutan's boys were
about to make a 55 second burn and attained
212,000 feet msl at apogee in their space
ship?

Cool story but irrelevant to the question at hand
since there was more than a week between the two events.

Spaceship One Flight #3, the high altitude flight: 13 May 04
The weekend Michael asked about: 21-23 May 04

Related: The first space attempt is scheduled for 21 June
and is open to the public. Don't need a press pass or
an invite to be JAFO.

Dave 'calendar boy' Hyde



Dave;

Now that I know zzzzzoom was in attendance at Mohave I wish that I
had continued my trip that day. I was at Edwards trying to visit the
museum that very day. I had planned to go on to Mohave, but after
being turned away from Edwards due to security (they weren't letting
anyone in without a base sticker). I turned around and headed back to
Victorville. When I checked the net that night I found out about the
Spaceship One flight. I was really bummed that I didn't head on over.
Now that I know that zzzzoom was there I am sure that my presence
would have ruined his day.
Now that you are about to become a resident of the Peoples Republic
of California have you found housing for your plane. I know a guy at
Chino (CNO) that has a hangar open.

Frank

I don't have a clue how those guys who went to the moon and back
ever did that. They must have been on some powerful clostrophobic
inhibiting drugs. Christ, they had to even **** in a space suit to
boot.


Well, actually, they pulled the suit pants down, stuck a bag on their
ass, and **** into it. Then they sealed said bag, kneaded it to work
the deodorizer crystals in, and stored it in the cabin.