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Old May 15th 04, 06:13 PM
Jay Honeck
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Aren't you forgetting about class E?
That is labeled "controlled", too, but hopefully even the dumbest pilot
would not expect VFR traffic separation by ATC in class E.


We're talking about tower-controlled airspace here, methinks.

Are there any Class E towers?
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Old May 15th 04, 06:27 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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We're talking about tower-controlled airspace here, methinks.


We're talking about towers in Class D airspace. Most of them do not control
the airspace.



Are there any Class E towers?


Yes, but a tower in Class E airspace is always a temporary situation. It's
either a temporary tower set up for some special event or a new tower in an
existing Class E surface area that will eventually become Class D airspace.


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Old May 15th 04, 07:02 PM
Jay Honeck
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Are there any Class E towers?


Yes, but a tower in Class E airspace is always a temporary situation.

It's
either a temporary tower set up for some special event or a new tower in

an
existing Class E surface area that will eventually become Class D

airspace.

I forgot about those "grain-truck" towers the FAA sets up from time to time.
Always feel sorry for them, out there baking in the hot sun...

We get one each year in Iowa City, for our annual fly-in breakfast.
(Which, incidentally, is August 29th this year.)
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Old May 15th 04, 07:08 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I forgot about those "grain-truck" towers the FAA sets up from
time to time.
Always feel sorry for them, out there baking in the hot sun...


I've only been in one, at FLD. It was air-conditioned.


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Old May 15th 04, 09:26 PM
Jay Honeck
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I've only been in one, at FLD. It was air-conditioned.

Pansies.

Our ATC guys can lick *their* ATC guys, any day...

;-)
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Old May 15th 04, 08:48 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I forgot about those "grain-truck" towers the FAA sets up from time to

time.
Always feel sorry for them, out there baking in the hot sun...

We get one each year in Iowa City, for our annual fly-in breakfast.
(Which, incidentally, is August 29th this year.)



If I fly all the way there, I expect lunch and maybe even an afternoon snack
as well.



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Old May 15th 04, 09:25 PM
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If I fly all the way there, I expect lunch and maybe even an afternoon
snack
as well.


Heck, I'll even throw in a cold beer!

Oops -- I'm contributing to the delinquency of a pilot again. Sorry...

;-)
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Old May 16th 04, 02:42 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I forgot about those "grain-truck" towers the FAA sets up from time to

time.
Always feel sorry for them, out there baking in the hot sun...


We have a portable tower built on about a 40 foot gooseneck trailer. We use
it when we set up a tower for a forest fire. Has heat and A/C.


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Old May 16th 04, 05:50 AM
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Hi Jay,

Yes, in order for a towered Airport to be class "D" it must have
surface based weather observation cabability, if not it is class "E"
and in some cases class "G" airspace. And as I believe others have
already said, only Class "B" airspace provides VFR seperation, hence
the 3SM visibility, clear of clouds VFR minimum.

Greg King
Dakota N2957F


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:mdspc.6907$qA.776955@attbi_s51...
Aren't you forgetting about class E?
That is labeled "controlled", too, but hopefully even the dumbest pilot
would not expect VFR traffic separation by ATC in class E.


We're talking about tower-controlled airspace here, methinks.

Are there any Class E towers?

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Old May 16th 04, 02:47 PM
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"atis118" wrote in message
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Yes, in order for a towered Airport to be class "D" it must have
surface based weather observation cabability, if not it is class "E"
and in some cases class "G" airspace.


That's not correct. All surface areas, Class B, C, D or E, require weather
reporting capability.



And as I believe others have
already said, only Class "B" airspace provides VFR seperation, hence
the 3SM visibility, clear of clouds VFR minimum.


Class C airspace provides separation between VFR and IFR aircraft, TRSAs
provide it between all participating aircraft.


 




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