The price of gas

"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

Check out how much it costs to get past the EPA and the rest fo the
government alphabet soup to build refining capacity, to drill, or
other
facilities.

You can extend that statement to EVERYTHING nowadays.

You should see the cost of all the various EPA reports just for our
airport
to extend a friggin' runway by a 1000 feet. It's incredible.

Jay, as I recall, you haven't traveled outside of the country. Too
bad, 'cause then you could see the cost of living without something
like the EPA or other agencies.

False alternative.


With all their problems, the government alphabet agencies have made
this a better place to live. Have they done so in a perfectly
efficient manner? No.

And the Holocaust and the Stalin Purges were just frat pranks that got out
of hand.

But I sure don't see a mass exodus from the
USA to Mexico, other 3rd world countries, or even to Europe.

You should read more.

Maybe
we've got a somewhat balanced approach here.

It's not balanced at all. What's more, total stupidity in other countries
doesn't excuse blatant stupidity (or corruption) here.

"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

Jay, as I recall, you haven't traveled outside of the country. Too
bad, 'cause then you could see the cost of living without something
like the EPA or other agencies.

False alternative.

How so?

With all their problems, the government alphabet agencies have made
this a better place to live. Have they done so in a perfectly
efficient manner? No.

And the Holocaust and the Stalin Purges were just frat pranks that got out
of hand.

??Hello, are we discussing the same subject? Regulation?

You should read more.

Reading is good. I read a lot. But there's no substitute for direct,
first-hand knowledge.

Maybe
we've got a somewhat balanced approach here.

It's not balanced at all. What's more, total stupidity in other countries
doesn't excuse blatant stupidity (or corruption) here.

It's somewhat balanced. You seem to have extreme views so I can see
how anything more than anarchy would disappoint you.

"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

Jay, as I recall, you haven't traveled outside of the country. Too
bad, 'cause then you could see the cost of living without something
like the EPA or other agencies.

False alternative.

How so?

Your logic states (more or less directly...it's called "drawing a logical
conclusion") you either have our EPA of the environment is a shambles.

Technically, "False Dilemma" - From the logical Fallacies Index --
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/distract/fd.htm

"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

Jay, as I recall, you haven't traveled outside of the country. Too
bad, 'cause then you could see the cost of living without something
like the EPA or other agencies.

False alternative.

How so?

Your logic states (more or less directly...it's called "drawing a logical
conclusion") you either have our EPA of the environment is a shambles.

I was stating some observations, not "drawing a logical conclusion."
Presumably you can cite your own observation of an industrial country
with little or no environmental regs that doesn't do environmental
damage?

Keep reading. You won't get any smarter, but you'll keep yourself busy.