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Old May 24th 04, 07:19 PM
John Fitzpatrick
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Have to admit, I'm not sure I would be comfortable going up in a 140 that
someone bought for 15K.

John

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Jay Honeck wrote:
And people wonder why no one can afford to fly...


Let's not perpetuate that myth here, of all places.

Anyone who can afford to buy a new Lexus can afford to fly.


A Lexus? I can't afford one of those! (And wouldn't drive one if
I could). I keep telling my friends that an airplane costs the same
as a car. Pick any car, you can find an airplane for that price.

Got $15K? Get a Cessna 152 or Cherokee 140.

Got $1.0 Million? Got car and airplane in that range too!



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Old May 25th 04, 01:53 AM
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John Fitzpatrick wrote:

Have to admit, I'm not sure I would be comfortable going up in a 140 that
someone bought for 15K.


I'm sure that I would *not* be real comfortable in a 152 that someone got that cheap.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.
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Old May 25th 04, 12:00 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article , John Fitzpatrick wrote:
Have to admit, I'm not sure I would be comfortable going up in a 140 that
someone bought for 15K.


I own a quarter share in a Schleicher Ka-8 glider that was bought a
couple of years ago for eqiv. US $6K. It is in absolutely mint
condition. We also just bought a Ka-7 for equiv. US $2500 which is in
good condition.

I spent a very fun hour and a half setting a minor unofficial Manx altitude
record in the Ka-8 on Sunday.

Flying doesn't have to be outrageously expensive - there are many ways
to afford flying on even a modest income.

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Old May 27th 04, 04:37 PM
Jay Honeck
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Flying doesn't have to be outrageously expensive - there are many ways
to afford flying on even a modest income.


This is my gospel, Dylan -- I preach it everywhere I go.

I am sick to death of people pronouncing that flying is "unaffordable."
That's just a cop-out used by failing businesses to explain why they don't
have any customers.

Compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap -- period. If
you can afford a new car -- and tens of millions can -- you can easily
afford to fly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old May 27th 04, 08:01 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap -- period. If
you can afford a new car -- and tens of millions can -- you can easily
afford to fly.


I don't think you can really describe it as "cheap". If you rent, and
pinch your pennies, it can be affordable, but not "cheap". Not everyone
lives in Iowa.

--- Jay


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Old May 27th 04, 08:58 PM
Jay Honeck
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Compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap -- period.
If
you can afford a new car -- and tens of millions can -- you can easily
afford to fly.


I don't think you can really describe it as "cheap". If you rent, and
pinch your pennies, it can be affordable, but not "cheap". Not everyone
lives in Iowa.


I said "compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap" -- which
is a whole different thing than saying "flying is cheap."

Everything is relative. Compared to golfing in Scotland, or owning a 42
foot yacht, flying is DIRT cheap. Compared to bowling, it's pretty spendy.

;-)
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old May 27th 04, 09:17 PM
Mark McNally
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In article TLrtc.8088$n_6.4236@attbi_s53, Jay Honeck wrote:
Compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap -- period.

If
you can afford a new car -- and tens of millions can -- you can easily
afford to fly.


I don't think you can really describe it as "cheap". If you rent, and
pinch your pennies, it can be affordable, but not "cheap". Not everyone
lives in Iowa.


I said "compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap" -- which
is a whole different thing than saying "flying is cheap."

Everything is relative. Compared to golfing in Scotland, or owning a 42
foot yacht, flying is DIRT cheap. Compared to bowling, it's pretty spendy.


Compared to many recreational activities, flying is expensive.
Everything is relative. Compared to golfing on my computer (Tiger Woods
2004), playing soccer with friends, watching TV, flying is INCREDIBLY
expensive. Okay, never mind me! Point made by the original poster - if
you can afford a new car, and indeed tens of millions can, you can
easily afford to fly and that's the truth!
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Old May 28th 04, 01:56 PM
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Mark McNally
wrote:

Point made by the original poster - if
you can afford a new car, and indeed tens of millions can, you can
easily afford to fly and that's the truth!


I can afford to fly, barely. I really can't afford to go anywhere
using the rental so I'm limited to just wafting around the local
countryside. Fun, but limiting.

I'll have to wait till I get my homebuilt finished and the time flown
off to be able to afford to go somewhere without having to rob a bank
to pay for it.

I can't imagine how much that Polish guy paid for the rental 172 he
flew across the US and back.

Corky Scott



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Old May 29th 04, 07:07 AM
'Vejita' S. Cousin
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In article TLrtc.8088$n_6.4236@attbi_s53,
I said "compared to many recreational activities, flying is cheap" -- which
is a whole different thing than saying "flying is cheap."

Everything is relative. Compared to golfing in Scotland, or owning a 42
foot yacht, flying is DIRT cheap. Compared to bowling, it's pretty spendy.


I'm a full time student, and for me flying is not cheap. In fact I took
out student loans to get my PPL. A lot of guys my age (29) are getting
married and having kids. If you make ~$25-35k/yr and have a family,
flying is really sort of out of the question for most people.
I think that flying is more affordable than most people think, but
clearly running a FBO or aviation school is difficult because it's based
on ones discretionary income. How to make a small fortune in aviation and
all that
Here in Seattle renting is pretty price. Local clubs charge as much as
$100/hr for a C152. Plus housing isn't cheap so that's less money for
flying. etc. etc.
Most people can not by a 42ft yacht either thou
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Old May 29th 04, 04:31 PM
Jay Honeck
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Here in Seattle renting is pretty price. Local clubs charge as much as
$100/hr for a C152.


$100 per hour for a clapped out old 152?

Good God, man, you can BUY a 152 for about $150 per MONTH, with a couple of
grand down.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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