NYC Help?

"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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It was pretty cool to see big jets 500 feet above & below me.
(American 458, traffic is a Skyhawk, 12 o'clock, 2 miles, 3500 ft--report
traffic in sight!)

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
m...
It was pretty cool to see big jets 500 feet above & below me.
(American 458, traffic is a Skyhawk, 12 o'clock, 2 miles, 3500
ft--report
traffic in sight!)

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

--Gary

That one was at 3000' on approach to LGA, going opposite to my direction. I
don't think he was going much faster than I was :-)

"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
m...
It was pretty cool to see big jets 500 feet above & below me.
(American 458, traffic is a Skyhawk, 12 o'clock, 2 miles, 3500
ft--report
traffic in sight!)

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

--Gary

That one was at 3000' on approach to LGA, going opposite to my direction.
I
don't think he was going much faster than I was :-)

Cool. Having them 500' below you is clearly ok. But 500' above you sounds
worrisome. The AIM cautions that wake turbulence can extend 1000' below an
airliner. I've never had the experience of coming closer than that, so I
don't know firsthand what it's like.

--Gary

In article 8SOsc.7122$eT4.3726@attbi_s54, Gary Drescher wrote:
"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
Cool. Having them 500' below you is clearly ok. But 500' above you sounds
worrisome. The AIM cautions that wake turbulence can extend 1000' below an
airliner. I've never had the experience of coming closer than that, so I
don't know firsthand what it's like.

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over me.
737, IIRC.

Tina Marie
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of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

Tina Marie wrote:

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over me.
737, IIRC.

Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

I fly a Tripacer. There's no danger of me _ever_ overtaking an airliner.

Tina Marie
--
http://www.tripacerdriver.com "...One of the main causes
of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Tina Marie wrote:

I've been warned of wake turbulance when an airliner passed 500ft over
me.
737, IIRC.

Do you get the same warning if you're overtaking the airliner?

Presumably that's even worse. The slower it's going, the more wake turblence
it generates.

--Gary


- Andrew

Gary Drescher wrote:

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

Approaching Colts Neck from the north, I occasionally get Newark departures
passing underneath, usually w/in 1000'. I'm shocked that ATC doesn't warn
them about wake turbulance from my 172.

- Andrew

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Andrew Gideon wrote:

Gary Drescher wrote:

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

Approaching Colts Neck from the north, I occasionally get Newark departures
passing underneath, usually w/in 1000'. I'm shocked that ATC doesn't warn
them about wake turbulance from my 172.

A few times on very calm days I have felt wake turbulence from the 152 or
172 ahead of me on final! Tower, on one slow, still day, even issued me a
mock wake turb warning from the 152 ahead on final!

Heavies, though... I don't think they've got much to worry about from us
spamcans...

Brian.

A few times on very calm days I have felt wake turbulence from the 152 or
172 ahead of me on final! Tower, on one slow, still day, even issued me a
mock wake turb warning from the 152 ahead on final!

a year or two back some guy on this list flew into IAH with jets in
front and behind him. I remember him saying how the tower
told the 737 (?) behind him, "Continental XXX, you are 7 miles behind a
Cessna 172, caution wake turbulence."


Kind of like when the tower told me while on short final of some birds.
I didn't know what to say so I simply said, "traffic in sight."
My CFI looked at me like I was some fool but what was I supposed to
say?

Gerald