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Old June 21st 04, 05:53 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


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Old June 21st 04, 06:00 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


YES IT IS. Countries are States.

George Patterson
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Old June 21st 04, 06:20 PM
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YES IT IS. Countries are States.


So murder in the US is a federal crime? It's outside the jurisdiction of
the States?


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Old June 21st 04, 07:00 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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YES IT IS. Countries are States.


So murder in the US is a federal crime?


It can be.

But you're confusing "States" (as in United...) with "states" (a
governmental jurisdiction").

Every heard the term "statism"?

It's outside the jurisdiction of
the States?





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Old June 22nd 04, 04:18 AM
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It can be.


It can be? If murder is defined at the federal level and not at the state
level, wouldn't all murders have to be prosecuted at the federal level?



But you're confusing "States" (as in United...) with "states" (a
governmental jurisdiction").


Well, my mistake then. I wasn't aware the feds had exclusive jurisdiction
in murder cases.



Every heard the term "statism"?


Yup. I didn't know that it included murder though.


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Old June 22nd 04, 01:41 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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It can be.


It can be? If murder is defined at the federal level and not at the state
level, wouldn't all murders have to be prosecuted at the federal level?


Yes...if that were the case, which it isn't.


But you're confusing "States" (as in United...) with "states" (a
governmental jurisdiction").


Well, my mistake then. I wasn't aware the feds had exclusive jurisdiction
in murder cases.


They don't...which is why the United STATES is compriased of the various
"states" (small 's').

Every heard the term "statism"?


Yup. I didn't know that it included murder though.


You don't know what the term "state" means, what the term "murder" means, or
what the legal definition of "human being" means either.



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Old June 22nd 04, 02:14 PM
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Yes...if that were the case, which it isn't.


Well, which is it then? Is "murder" defined at the state level or not?



They don't...which is why the United STATES is compriased of the various
"states" (small 's').


How can small s states have jurisdiction over something they don't even
define?



You don't know what the term "state" means, what the term "murder" means,

or
what the legal definition of "human being" means either.


Can you provide the definitions?


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Old June 21st 04, 06:55 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


YES IT IS. Countries are States.


I think he's confusing "States" with "states".



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Old June 22nd 04, 02:04 AM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:

I think he's confusing "States" with "states".


Seems that way to me. I said it's defined by "the State", which is a pseudonym for
"the government." Seems he's added an "s" to "the State".

George Patterson
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