what would you do?

"zatatime" wrote in message
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I really am amazed at how quickly this group seems to hang people and
almost unanimously declare that someone should be referred to the
authorities when all they really have to go by is one persons opinion.

According to the original post, there were quite a few witnesses.

It's almost as if no one here has ever made a mistake, and that they
are as close to perfect pilots as anyone can be.

Not that boneheaded of mistakes.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:53:15 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

According to the original post, there were quite a few witnesses.

None of whom frequent this group, which still leaves us making a
determination (suggestion) based one one person's point of view.

It's almost as if no one here has ever made a mistake, and that they
are as close to perfect pilots as anyone can be.

Not that boneheaded of mistakes.

Are you sure, No One who has Ever posted here has not made One
significant error? Just seems too absolute a statement to me.

"zatatime" wrote in message

I really am amazed at how quickly this group seems to hang people and
almost unanimously declare that someone should be referred to the
authorities when all they really have to go by is one persons opinion.

Well, that's why we're just talking about it here and not calling the FAA,
isn't it?

If I saw it, I would have probably reported it because somebody like me, or
my family, or my CFI or friends who fly, or the offending pilot and her
passengers, might be in grave danger.
Similarly, as an avid boater on the Columbia River, I do not hesitate to
report flagrantly irresponsible activity by other boaters when I see them
put other people in harm's way.

-c

"Michael 182" wrote in message

What does "report her" mean? Why should the FSDO care what I say when
I
"report" a fellow pilot?

They are the ones in charge of enforcing the FARs.

Right, but it is my word against hers. Why should they believe me?

Because other people might have reported her too. If not, at least you made
a best effort instead of shrugging the whole thing off and hoping somebody
doesn't get killed by her irresponsibility next time.

Here's an anecdote. In 1990 or so, a Lake flew under the bridges in
downtown Portland, Oregon in the middle of the day, and the FAA and police
were looking all over for the guy. I saw a Lake that fit the exact
description sitting outside a hangar at TTD, having just landed, that very
day. Didn't report it, although Lake amphibs are pretty rare out here.
Should I have reported it?

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Michael 182" wrote in message

What does "report her" mean? Why should the FSDO care what I say
when
I
"report" a fellow pilot?

They are the ones in charge of enforcing the FARs.

Right, but it is my word against hers. Why should they believe me?

Because other people might have reported her too. If not, at least you
made
a best effort instead of shrugging the whole thing off and hoping somebody
doesn't get killed by her irresponsibility next time.

Here's an anecdote. In 1990 or so, a Lake flew under the bridges in
downtown Portland, Oregon in the middle of the day, and the FAA and police
were looking all over for the guy. I saw a Lake that fit the exact
description sitting outside a hangar at TTD, having just landed, that very
day. Didn't report it, although Lake amphibs are pretty rare out here.
Should I have reported it?

Absolutely not. You don't know it was the same Lake. You don't even know it
was a Lake that flew under the bridge (other than someone else's ID, which,
unless it was by a pilot is pretty iffy). You don't know the circumstances
of flying under the bridge, if in fact, that really happened. Maybe he was
landing legitimately and taxiied under the bridge. I have no idea what the
seaplane rules are, do you? And, aside from everything else, I really have
no problem with someone flying under a bridge. I wouldn't do it, but
barnstormers used to do this sort of thing all the time.

Michael




-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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[...] Didn't report it, although Lake amphibs are pretty rare out here.

Funny you should say that. The Pacific Northwest (in which I include the
Portland area) is the region with the second-most number of Lake amphibs,
after the southeast US (mainly Florida).

Should I have reported it?

If you didn't see the airplane flying under the bridge, what would there
have been for you to report?

Pete

"Michael 182" wrote in message

The jerk
was yelling at me that if I couldn't land shorter than that I shouldn't be
landing at "his" airport. I can just picture him "reporting" me, and
having
to deal with a FSDO investigation or some such thing.

Those are good points, Micheal. If I reported her to the FSDO, I'd have the
guts to give my name and number so that I could contribute what I saw if
necessary.

But if I saw a pilot knowingly putting other pilots and aircraft in danger,
I'd definately want to do something to prevent him/her from doing it again,
and cussing her out isn't an option.
-c