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Old June 22nd 04, 02:02 PM
Richard Russell
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On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry
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The backseat drivers will come out and blast the pilot, crew,
controllers, flight attendants and lineboy for this screwup, but you
know, stuff happens.

In the 1970s (I think) an airliner landed at then Moffett Naval Air
Station instead of San Jose Muni.

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.

Stuff happens. Be glad it doesn't happen to you.


Stuff does happen and I am grateful that I haven't made that egregious
and error, yet. What amazes me, however, is that the military
"allowed" this plane to land at the base. If the plane happened to be
in the hands of someone with ill intent and he took out a row of
bombers there would be one hell of a lot of explaining to do.
Rich Russell
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Old June 22nd 04, 03:57 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.


I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.



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Old June 27th 04, 10:40 AM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry

wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.



I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.



Well you wouldn't make much money.
You could take out of it any 3 engine Falcon with about 6000 lbs/2+hours
of fuel.

Gabriele
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Old June 27th 04, 05:16 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"gabriele" wrote in message
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry

wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.



I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a

straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.



Well you wouldn't make much money.
You could take out of it any 3 engine Falcon with about 6000 lbs/2+hours
of fuel.

Out of a 3185 foot runway at 4000(?) feet? He might make it, but it would
sure be exciting to watch.


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Old June 27th 04, 07:28 PM
gabriele
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:


Well you wouldn't make much money.
You could take out of it any 3 engine Falcon with about 6000 lbs/2+hours
of fuel.


Out of a 3185 foot runway at 4000(?) feet? He might make it, but it would
sure be exciting to watch.


At 4000 feet? Then make that 1 hour+ of fuel (BFL).
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Old June 28th 04, 08:00 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"gabriele" wrote in message
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:


Well you wouldn't make much money.
You could take out of it any 3 engine Falcon with about 6000 lbs/2+hours
of fuel.


Out of a 3185 foot runway at 4000(?) feet? He might make it, but it

would
sure be exciting to watch.


At 4000 feet? Then make that 1 hour+ of fuel (BFL).


Christ on a bike...I said he'd get out but IT WOULD BE EXCITING TO WATCH!!
Is that so goddamn hard to understand?

Legal...but stupid. Or maybe I'm too conservative. I'll have to archive this
thread until the next time someone posts a newspaper article about a pilot
pranging on takeoff and then compare the second guessers.



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Old June 27th 04, 05:28 PM
Ditch
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Even a straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.


Yeah....it could do so quite easily. So could the Falcon for that matter.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*
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Old June 27th 04, 05:28 PM
Bob Fry
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.


I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.


He got out no problem. The first and probably last time we saw a jet
blasting over West Davis.
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Old June 27th 04, 06:04 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.


I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a

straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.


He got out no problem. The first and probably last time we saw a jet
blasting over West Davis.


Any idea of how much room he had to spare...or at what point he reached the
go/no-go point? :~)

If it was the same pilot, I'd have to think that his judgment, as you
mentioned, leaves something to be desired.






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Old June 27th 04, 06:55 PM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:

"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

On 21 Jun 2004 18:22:59 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote:

Just a few months ago a tri-engine Falcon Jet--I don't know which
model--landed by mistake at University Airport (3185 x 50 ft.) instead
of nearby Yolo Airport (6000 x 100 ft.) The pilot hit the reverse
thrust before the nosewheel touched down...better pilot skill than
judgement.

I'd sell tickets to the guy's takeoff when he tries to leave.Even a

straight
wing Citation couldn't get out of that mess.


He got out no problem. The first and probably last time we saw a jet
blasting over West Davis.


Any idea of how much room he had to spare...or at what point he reached the
go/no-go point? :~)

If it was the same pilot, I'd have to think that his judgment, as you
mentioned, leaves something to be desired.


How much Falcon time do you have and what do you base that on?


 




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