Two fine points of FAR interpretation

On 18 Jul 2004 18:45:23 -0700, (Dave Russell) wrote:

A friend of mine is curious:

1. If a runway is closed by NOTAM at a non-towered airport, does that
mean that the adjacent *taxiway* can't be used to legally take-off and
land? (I know the insurance company would have an opinion about this,
also, but let's ignore that aspect for the moment.)


The FAA has little to do with where you take off and land, so long as you
are not in violation of "careless and reckless". The owner of the airport
would be a better entity to ask. At Nashua (which is towered) when the
runway was closed for reconstruction, use of the adjacent grass was
frequent and "at your own risk". Use of the taxiway would have been
"careless and reckless" due to taxiing aircraft.

At EPM, the taxiway is occasionally used by some during strong crosswind
conditions.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

when ASH was non towered.. the use of the old grass strip to the east of the
runway was a normal occurrence.. and even more so when the runway was closed
for resurfacing.. and then the heavy twins would use the taxiway.. with lots
of radio calls... but way back then.. there was nothing north of the ASH
tower.. NOTHING but the taxi way to the north end..

BT

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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On 18 Jul 2004 18:45:23 -0700, (Dave Russell) wrote:

A friend of mine is curious:

1. If a runway is closed by NOTAM at a non-towered airport, does that
mean that the adjacent *taxiway* can't be used to legally take-off and
land? (I know the insurance company would have an opinion about this,
also, but let's ignore that aspect for the moment.)


The FAA has little to do with where you take off and land, so long as you
are not in violation of "careless and reckless". The owner of the airport
would be a better entity to ask. At Nashua (which is towered) when the
runway was closed for reconstruction, use of the adjacent grass was
frequent and "at your own risk". Use of the taxiway would have been
"careless and reckless" due to taxiing aircraft.

At EPM, the taxiway is occasionally used by some during strong crosswind
conditions.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:10:54 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

when ASH was non towered.. the use of the old grass strip to the east of the
runway was a normal occurrence.. and even more so when the runway was closed
for resurfacing.. and then the heavy twins would use the taxiway.. with lots
of radio calls... but way back then.. there was nothing north of the ASH
tower.. NOTHING but the taxi way to the north end..

That resurfacing must have taken place prior to '76.

But even now, the grass on the NE side of the runway still gets used from
time to time. But they don't keep it up they way they used to.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

yes... actually that resurfacing would have been about that time..

I left ASH in 1982 and the new tower was not open then..
I was at NEAI/DWC from 1974-1977, earned my Private ASEL through NEAI in
1974

BT


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:10:54 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

when ASH was non towered.. the use of the old grass strip to the east of
the
runway was a normal occurrence.. and even more so when the runway was
closed
for resurfacing.. and then the heavy twins would use the taxiway.. with
lots
of radio calls... but way back then.. there was nothing north of the ASH
tower.. NOTHING but the taxi way to the north end..

That resurfacing must have taken place prior to '76.

But even now, the grass on the NE side of the runway still gets used from
time to time. But they don't keep it up they way they used to.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:50:06 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

yes... actually that resurfacing would have been about that time..

I left ASH in 1982 and the new tower was not open then..
I was at NEAI/DWC from 1974-1977, earned my Private ASEL through NEAI in
1974

Well we overlapped a bit. I moved to the area in 1976 and left in 2000.
We still go back to visit from time to time, though.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)