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July 20th 04, 08:32 PM
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I have heard conflicting reports as to whether the Ercoupe 416C would be
eligible as a LSA or not. Anyone know for sure? I see it listed as having a t/o weight of 1260 lb. under the 1320 lb. in the newly published FAA rules... -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "Gilan" wrote in message nk.net... http://www.flyinggators.com/news/LSA/SPrule.html -- Have a good day and stay out of the trees! See ya on Sport Aircraft group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/ 
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#2
July 20th 04, 09:09 PM
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I meant the Ercoupe 415C, of course g.
-- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in message news  I have heard conflicting reports as to whether the Ercoupe 416C would be eligible as a LSA or not. Anyone know for sure? I see it listed as having a t/o weight of 1260 lb. under the 1320 lb. in the newly published FAA rules... -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "Gilan" wrote in message nk.net... http://www.flyinggators.com/news/LSA/SPrule.html -- Have a good day and stay out of the trees! See ya on Sport Aircraft group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/
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#3
July 20th 04, 11:01 PM
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"Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in
: I meant the Ercoupe 415C, of course g. -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in message news I have heard conflicting reports as to whether the Ercoupe 416C would be eligible as a LSA or not. Anyone know for sure? I see it listed as having a t/o weight of 1260 lb. under the 1320 lb. in the newly published FAA rules... -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com Looks to me like your in.... Stall speed (clean) 48mph LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph -- ET  "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams
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#4
July 20th 04, 11:33 PM
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"ET" wrote in message
... LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph That would be closer to 51.7864910 mph. Rich "The Devil is in the details" S.
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#5
July 21st 04, 03:03 PM
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Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight
of a production aircraft? Example a piper clipper pa-16 is of course a 4 seater empty wight usually around 900 lbs, if I removed the back seat and flew it at 1320 lbs or under (my wife and I together weigh 300 lbs or so)? It would meet all the other criteria vne 120 knots or less, cruise and max speed 120 kts. Thanks, Dave "Rich S." wrote in message ... "ET" wrote in message ... LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph That would be closer to 51.7864910 mph. Rich "The Devil is in the details" S.
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#6
July 21st 04, 03:16 PM
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dave wrote: Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight of a production aircraft? Sure. Recertify it. George Patterson In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony assault. In Tennessee, it's evangelism.
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#7
July 21st 04, 04:13 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in
: dave wrote: Somewhat on topic, is it possible to change (lower) the gross weight of a production aircraft? Sure. Recertify it. George Patterson In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony assault. In Tennessee, it's evangelism. NO, Well, YES, actually, but it will not do any good for Sport Pilot. The FAA added the following to avoid just such a thing: "Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to meet the following:" The words "since it's original certification, has continued" is your problem. The same for the ercoupe 415 d's that used to be "c's". You can't take them back to a "c" and fly under sport (and be legal). I suppose it's unlikely that a ramp check will get you ... but if the ramp checkers start carrying laptops with N-number databases in them... maybe you would get caught. -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams
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#8
July 21st 04, 02:59 PM
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Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be able to
have the SLA classification. That's a good thing, cuz many of the other "eligible" a/c are tail-draggers. The castored main gear on the Ercoupe should make a crabbed X-wind landing fairly easy (and necessary since auto-coordination excludes slipping.) -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "ET" wrote in message ... "Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in : I meant the Ercoupe 415C, of course g. -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com 239-772-1663 v/f 239-560-1631 m "Dr. Bob Lade" wrote in message news I have heard conflicting reports as to whether the Ercoupe 416C would be eligible as a LSA or not. Anyone know for sure? I see it listed as having a t/o weight of 1260 lb. under the 1320 lb. in the newly published FAA rules... -- Dr. Bob Lade Lade's Internet Service, Inc. 637 N.E. 15th Court Cape Coral FL 33909 www.BobLade.com Looks to me like your in.... Stall speed (clean) 48mph LSA stall speed 45knots = approx 48.6 mph -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams
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#9
July 21st 04, 05:29 PM
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"Dr. Bob Lade" wrote: Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be able to have the SLA classification. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Actually, NOT in the U.S.A.. [Pun intended] Since 1959, the U.S. has used 6,076.115 feet as the international standard for a nautical mile, making 45 knots closer to = 51.78507102 mph. However, there are other standards for a n.m. Therefore... YMMV. g Barnyard - PhD challenged - BOb
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#10
July 22nd 04, 04:38 PM
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Barnyard BOb - wrote in
: "Dr. Bob Lade" wrote: Actually, 45 knots = 51.75 mph, so it looks as if the 415C should be able to have the SLA classification. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Actually, NOT in the U.S.A.. [Pun intended] Since 1959, the U.S. has used 6,076.115 feet as the international standard for a nautical mile, making 45 knots closer to = 51.78507102 mph. However, there are other standards for a n.m. Therefore... YMMV. g Barnyard - PhD challenged - BOb sorry, my first calculation was Knots with tax (grin). Or maybe I'm just not tying them right. -- ET "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."---- Douglas Adams
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