OSH Disappointments

Jay,

Over a beer (after they've dusted
you off) they would tell you all day long that success in this country is
open to ALL, only requiring an education and hard work.


Well, I'd hope for them that they'd be drunk senseless before they said
anything remotely as stupid as that.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Over a beer (after they've dusted
you off) they would tell you all day long that success in this country
is
open to ALL, only requiring an education and hard work.


Well, I'd hope for them that they'd be drunk senseless before they said
anything remotely as stupid as that.

Wow -- what a blatantly prejudicial, inflammatory statement!

A new record -- even for usenet.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

Come on. I mean no disrespect to your professors, and I doubt you have
"cleared" that quasi-quotation with them, but
"...success open to all, requiring only education and hard work" - even
you know that's utter BS. There's simply no debate, at all.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Come on. I mean no disrespect to your professors, and I doubt you have
"cleared" that quasi-quotation with them, but
"...success open to all, requiring only education and hard work" - even
you know that's utter BS. There's simply no debate, at all.


Why is that utter BS?

Steven,

Why is that utter BS?


Because it simply isn't true - and even without having the faintest
idea of where you live (in the US or elsewhere), I can safely say that
one thorough look around at your fellow humans will provide ample proof
of that.

Really, I'm willing to discuss a lot of stuff on the Usenet, but to
even try and debate that statement makes no sense.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Really, I'm willing to discuss a lot of stuff on the Usenet, but to
even try and debate that statement makes no sense.

Wow. That is an amazing statement. Do you really believe this?

I've met so many hundreds (thousands?) of men and women who have succeeded
SOLELY because of their hard work and education, that it's hard to imagine
any other economic system. For example, I'm no Bill Gates, but I started
with nothing but an education and a good, old-fashioned German-American work
ethic, and yet I have achieved everything I've set out to do. (Well,
almost. I still want to be Mike Rappaport when I grow up! :-)

Attend a few chamber of commerce meetings in any town in America, and you'll
meet thousands and thousands of people with the same story. All you need to
succeed (in this country, anyway) is a good education and hard work.
Everything else will follow, in time.

It must be awful to live somewhere where you can't succeed solely on the
basis of merit. Must be why dozens of people literally die every day,
trying to come to America?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

Sorry, but, as I said, there's no point in this. If that's your view of
the US, it is IMHO quite narrow indeed. It makes me very sad and angry
to read postings like yours. But to each his own.

Let's just agree to disagree and quarrel about headsets instead.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

In article 5YLSc.291646$Oq2.285942@attbi_s52, Jay Honeck wrote:
any other economic system. For example, I'm no Bill Gates, but I started
with nothing but an education and a good, old-fashioned German-American work

One thing to remember about Bill Gates was that he was essentially a
multimillionaire when he was born. If you've got that much money to
start out with, it's easy to take risks. If Bill Gates lost 500K on his
first business venture, it may be annoying but it's not life
threatening. If most people lost 500K on their first business venture,
they've probably lost everything - including their home. So they can't
take those kinds of risks very easily (although some do).

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Jay Honeck wrote:

It must be awful to live somewhere where you can't succeed solely on the
basis of merit.

Try being an airline pilot. No merits, all seniority.

Cheers,
Jens

(Trying to get more on-topic)
--
I don't accept any emails right now. Usenet replys only.

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
Steven,

Why is that utter BS?


Because it simply isn't true - and even without having the faintest
idea of where you live (in the US or elsewhere), I can safely say that
one thorough look around at your fellow humans will provide ample proof
of that.

Really, I'm willing to discuss a lot of stuff on the Usenet, but to
even try and debate that statement makes no sense.


It is true in the US. You're simply misinformed.