"Cleared Straight-In Runway X; Report Y Miles Final"

Recently, Peter Duniho posted:

"Neil Gould" wrote in message

I agree. I'm not defending the decision to fly 30 degrees off-center
to the threshold. But, I do wonder whether we have all the
information that would allow us to reach a conclusion that it was an
error, as opposed to a poor choice?

Not sure what you mean there. All we can base our observations on is
what Jim has posted. He's specifically said that the controller told
him to be at a position that he never wound up at. That's an error
AND a poor choice.

You're placing the entire responsibility on Jim. Interesting that Steven's
replies do not. Since he stated that he is a tower controller, I think I'd
go with his interpretation of Jim's situation. Of course, the plot only
thickens if you are *both* ATCs. ;-)

Neil

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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You're placing the entire responsibility on Jim. Interesting that Steven's
replies do not.

Not sure how you get that. I am saying essentially the same thing Steven
said (for example) when he wrote "He's wrong whether or not there was other
traffic. He did not follow the controller's instruction."

Perhaps you'd share with us where you feel that Steven is assigning
responsibility with the controller. Surely you don't think the difference
between a "clearance" and an actual clearance is significant here? Even
assuming the controller actually said "cleared", which I give only 50/50
probability of actually having happened.

Pete