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Old August 20th 04, 03:14 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

In the US, controllers would sequence the arriving aircraft so that a go
around would not be necessary.


Not always. I had the plane in front of me fail to clear the runway in time at TTN
once.

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Old August 20th 04, 04:06 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

In the US, controllers would sequence the arriving aircraft so that a go
around would not be necessary.


Not always. I had the plane in front of me fail to clear the runway in

time at TTN
once.


That doesn't mean there wasn't sufficient spacing.


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Old August 20th 04, 04:10 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

That doesn't mean there wasn't sufficient spacing.


I could well believe that there was sufficient spacing when the plane ahead of me was
still a mile away from touchdown. There was not when I crossed the threshold.

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Old August 20th 04, 04:13 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

That doesn't mean there wasn't sufficient spacing.


I could well believe that there was sufficient spacing when the plane

ahead of me was
still a mile away from touchdown. There was not when I crossed the

threshold.


How do you know?


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Old August 20th 04, 02:46 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

How do you know?


The controller told me so.

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Old August 20th 04, 03:25 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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The controller told me so.


Did you not have the previous airplane in sight?


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Old August 20th 04, 06:45 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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The controller told me so.


Did you not have the previous airplane in sight?


Og course. He was trundling down the runway.

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Old August 20th 04, 03:43 PM
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

How do you know?


The controller told me so.


In the US on Earth, the controller has to make certain assumptions. That #1
won't blow a tire is one of those assumptions, of course. Others include
that #1 won't slow a lot on final or dally on the runway.

And just to make matters "worse", I've been cleared as #3 or #4 to land. So
the controller is making a fairly lengthy chain of assumptions (even on
small planes, we're speaking now of 9 tires holding together {8^).

- Andrew

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Old August 20th 04, 04:27 PM
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Andrew Gideon wrote:




In the US on Earth, the controller has to make certain assumptions.


We make thousands of assumptions everyday.



That #1
won't blow a tire is one of those assumptions, of course.


In the 16 or so years I've been doing this I've seen less than 5 blown
tires that required the aircraft to get towed off the runway. In that
time I have witnessed well over a million takeoffs and landings.


Others include
that #1 won't slow a lot on final or dally on the runway.


That happens all the time. There is no such thing as a go around proof
sequence. **** happens. If it didn't there wouldn't be any need for a
controller in the first place.



And just to make matters "worse", I've been cleared as #3 or #4 to land. So
the controller is making a fairly lengthy chain of assumptions (even on
small planes, we're speaking now of 9 tires holding together {8^).


What exactly are the tires you use made of...Jello? They just don't
fail with the regularity that you are worried about.



 




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