is it just me?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Robert Briggs wrote:

Er, that's what I was saying.

No, you said "the other guy's runway doesn't include 150 feet or so
of your own".

Er, what I wrote was:

"... why bother holding short if the other guy's runway doesn't
include 150 feet or so of your own?"

See the "why bother ... if ..." construct?

"Robert Briggs" wrote in message
...
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Robert Briggs wrote:

Er, that's what I was saying.

No, you said "the other guy's runway doesn't include 150 feet or so
of your own".

Er, what I wrote was:

"... why bother holding short if the other guy's runway doesn't
include 150 feet or so of your own?"

See the "why bother ... if ..." construct?


Yes, I saw it the first time. The part you still don't understand is that
the other guy's runway DOES include 150 feet or so of your own. You can't
use that portion of the runway because someone else is using it.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Robert Briggs wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Robert Briggs wrote:

Er, that's what I was saying.

No, you said "the other guy's runway doesn't include 150 feet or so
of your own".

Er, what I wrote was:

"... why bother holding short if the other guy's runway doesn't
include 150 feet or so of your own?"

See the "why bother ... if ..." construct?

Yes, I saw it the first time. The part you still don't understand is that
the other guy's runway DOES include 150 feet or so of your own. You can't
use that portion of the runway because someone else is using it.

Hmm ... I think I *do* understand that: you land and hold short of that
150-foot portion (more specifically, short of some marked holding
point).

I guess that at least one of us needs a caffeine fix and/or a weekend
away from the 'puter. Good night.

"Robert Briggs" wrote in message
...

Hmm ... I think I *do* understand that: you land and hold short of that
150-foot portion (more specifically, short of some marked holding
point).


Well, if you understood that, why did you ask "... why bother holding short
if the other guy's runway doesn't include 150 feet or so of your own?"?



I guess that at least one of us needs a caffeine fix and/or a weekend
away from the 'puter. Good night.


I think you're right. I suggest rest.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Robert Briggs wrote:

Hmm ... I think I *do* understand that: you land and hold short of that
150-foot portion (more specifically, short of some marked holding
point).

Well, if you understood that, why did you ask "... why bother holding short
if the other guy's runway doesn't include 150 feet or so of your own?"?

After a weekend away from the 'puter, here's how I put it last
Wednesday:

: Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
: Robert Briggs wrote:
:
: AFAIK, our CAA doesn't approve of LAHSO, so I've not seen
: that form of dual runway occupancy.
:
: LAHSO involves operations on intersecting runways.
:
: I realise that (modulo Newps' comment).
:
: That said, why bother holding short if the other guy's runway
: doesn't include 150 feet or so of your own? The tarmac is
: the same, even if his label for it is different from yours.

I guess I misunderstood your simple explanation of LAHSO to include
denial that it constituted a "form of dual runway occupancy" when the
other guy crosses your nose.

"Robert Briggs" wrote in message
...

After a weekend away from the 'puter, here's how I put it last
Wednesday:

: Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
: Robert Briggs wrote:
:
: AFAIK, our CAA doesn't approve of LAHSO, so I've not seen
: that form of dual runway occupancy.
:
: LAHSO involves operations on intersecting runways.
:
: I realise that (modulo Newps' comment).
:
: That said, why bother holding short if the other guy's runway
: doesn't include 150 feet or so of your own? The tarmac is
: the same, even if his label for it is different from yours.

I guess I misunderstood your simple explanation of LAHSO to include
denial that it constituted a "form of dual runway occupancy" when the
other guy crosses your nose.


Nope, if you're cleared to land and hold short of the intersecting runway
your runway effectively ends at the hold short point.