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Old August 20th 04, 07:43 PM
Newps
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Andrew Gideon wrote:



More seriously: I've only had a tire fail once during my 400+ hours of
flying, so perhaps it isn't terribly likely. However, I have been waved
off in the past for other reasons. Perhaps these can all be classified as
"controller missequencing", but - given that a lot of students are flying
around my "home" airport - I'd be surprised if none of the blame falls to
those students.


I worked for four years at an airport where 95% of the traffic was from
the University of North Dakota. Nothing but flight training. Students
beat the hell out of airplanes and I don't recall any flat tires on the
trainers. The flats all seem to happen to the biz jets and big twins.


But this is all beside the point (although interesting). The fact is that
controllers do occasionally have to wave off an aircraft previously cleared
for landing.


At GFK we had probably 50 go arounds a day for any number of reasons.
However disabled aircraft on the runway wasn't one of the top 10
factors. Here at BIL we have hardly any flight training anymore and I
can't remember the last time I saw a go around. Although there are a
few reasons for that too.

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Old August 20th 04, 08:02 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Newps wrote:

I worked for four years at an airport where 95% of the traffic was from
the University of North Dakota. Nothing but flight training. Students
beat the hell out of airplanes and I don't recall any flat tires on the
trainers. The flats all seem to happen to the biz jets and big twins.


Interesting. Well, it happened to me once.

[Yes, it was in a 172 also used for training.]


But this is all beside the point (although interesting). The fact is
that controllers do occasionally have to wave off an aircraft previously
cleared for landing.


At GFK we had probably 50 go arounds a day for any number of reasons.
However disabled aircraft on the runway wasn't one of the top 10
factors. Here at BIL we have hardly any flight training anymore and I
can't remember the last time I saw a go around. Although there are a
few reasons for that too.


That *is* interesting. It helps explain why I've experienced this more at
CDW than elsewhere. I thought it because most of my landings, over the
years, have been there (it's where I did my primary and instrument
training). But CDW is also a "training heavy" airport.

Not that this is too meaningful, but I cannot recall a single instance of a
go-around being required at a controlled airport not CDW. I can recall
hearing a go-around issued at CDW just this past week.

- Andrew

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Old August 20th 04, 10:16 PM
Peter Clark
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:02:09 -0400, Andrew Gideon
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Not that this is too meaningful, but I cannot recall a single instance of a
go-around being required at a controlled airport not CDW. I can recall
hearing a go-around issued at CDW just this past week.


FWIW, I've been told to go-around while attempting to get in a landing
at BED on any number of occasions during my training here.

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Old August 20th 04, 10:55 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Peter Clark wrote:

FWIW, I've been told to go-around while attempting to get in a landing
at BED on any number of occasions during my training here.


Is that a training-heavy airport?

- Andrew

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Old August 21st 04, 01:20 PM
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:55:51 -0400, Andrew Gideon
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Peter Clark wrote:

FWIW, I've been told to go-around while attempting to get in a landing
at BED on any number of occasions during my training here.


Is that a training-heavy airport?


Yes, at least 2 schools based there. I believe they do a lot of
controller training as well. Makes for an exciting pattern towards
the end of the scheduled blocks when everyone is coming back from the
practice areas

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Old August 22nd 04, 07:28 PM
C Kingsbury
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Peter Clark wrote in message . ..

Yes, at least 2 schools based there. I believe they do a lot of
controller training as well. Makes for an exciting pattern towards
the end of the scheduled blocks when everyone is coming back from the
practice areas


BED gets even more interesting when you add in the heavy bizjet
traffic. You can easily have a handful of Katanas and Tomahawks
sharing the pattern with Challengers and G-Vs.

Also you need to keep your eyes peeled out by the "golf ball" off to
the Northeast, and the old Wang Towers. I always make a point of not
passing directly overhead of either one.

-cwk.
 




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