Run In With Mr. Edwards

You wanna blast me? Come on. Take a piece of me. So far as I am
concerned you
are a stupid jackass that DIDN'T serve in the military, that WEREN'T
subject to
the draft, and have absolutely no CONCEPT of what either Vietnam, Iraq I
or Iraq
II are all about.

You know, Jim, most people are nice in-writing, but go off half-cocked
in-person. You're the only person I've ever met that is just the opposite.

Many people will be ripping you to shreds for your argument that "almost
being drafted" makes you more qualified to comment on the Vietnam war.
Some may even point out that there is some guy up on that black wall in
Washington, D.C. because you chose not to go.

Not me. Although I think you're wrong, it was you guys in the Apollo
program that were the true heroes of the '60s. If only we had followed the
path laid out by NASA, rather than the path laid out by the "Great Society,"
we'd all be living in a much better world by now. (Actually, it might have
been a world other than Earth...)

Current arguments aside, we needed Apollo a helluva lot more than we needed
Vietnam.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jim Weir wrote:

Then, Jay, you are a generation behind me. You didn't SWEAT your ass going to
some rice paddy in Vietnam. You didn't LIVE your life hoping against hope that
your draft board wouldn't haul your ass out of college and send you with a rifle
to some country that you couldn't have given a rat's ass less about.

Me? I got lucky. My draft board thought that my work on Apollo was "in the
national interest" and I got a deferment. The engineer on the next desk wasn't
so lucky; he came home less his left arm.

You have absolutely no chops to criticize Kerry unless you were in the Vietnam
draft mix. You were not. Shut the hell up.

Huh? Nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry if they weren't draft eligible 30+
years ago? Oh yes, a real constitution advocate you are. Why stop there?? Why
not just say that nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry unless they were fighting
in Vietnam? Which rice paddy were you earning your first amendment rights in
again? Shut the hell up indeed. By your logic an entire sex shouldn't be
permitted to criticize Kerry. We should just appoint him king kerry right now
because anything said that isn't a complement is out of line.

Using your supreme logic, Bob Dole can't even criticize John Kerry because he
doesn't have the proper military service credentials to do so.

Quod scripsi, scripsi.

Jim




Laura
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


-Huh? Nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry if they weren't draft eligible
30+
-years ago?


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Jim Weir" wrote in message
...
Quod scripsi, scripsi.

Jim

Sophocles was acquitted of insanity with this argument because of the beauty
of his tragedies. Are you sure you want to use what YOU wrote as a defense?

The quotation is generally ascribed to Pontius Pilate when he was asked to
change the inscription on the paper nailed to Christ's cross. And it *is*
Latin, not Greek.

Jim



"C J Campbell"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-
-"Jim Weir" wrote in message
.. .
- Quod scripsi, scripsi.
-
- Jim
-
-Sophocles was acquitted of insanity with this argument because of the beauty
-of his tragedies. Are you sure you want to use what YOU wrote as a defense?
-

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Jim Weir" wrote in message
...
The quotation is generally ascribed to Pontius Pilate when he was asked to
change the inscription on the paper nailed to Christ's cross. And it *is*
Latin, not Greek.


That is true. I was thinking of a Latin commentary on Sophocles, but now I
have to look it up.

Actually, the phrase is not very good Latin or, rather, it takes
considerable poetic license. Translated somewhat loosely, it is "But what I
wrote, I wrote." IIRC the phrase attributed to Sophocles in the Latin
history was meant to say "But see what I have written" meaning that what he
had written was beautiful and could not be the product of an incompetent. It
is a play on words, using the made-up "scripsi" to mean both "see" and
"write." The "si" suffix is required to make "Quod" mean "but" or
(sometimes) "therefore."

Now I have to wonder if Pilate was quoting an earlier commentary. It would
have been a typically Roman thing to do, but the reference might have either
been lost on the Gospel writers or else (more likely) they would have
assumed that anyone reading the narrative would have recognized it. After
all, "It is written" is a strongly Semitic sentiment. Related would be the
declaration of the name of God: "I Am that I Am," first proclaimed from the
burning bush to Moses and then referred to by Jesus: "Before Abraham was I
Am" and "Who do men say that I Am?" We could then go into Christian
symbolism in modern pop literature, as in Popeye: "I am what I am," but then
I digress considerably, so we will leave it at that.

I should also mention that I really don't remember that much of my high
school Latin, so if you go quoting any more Latin phrases don't assume that
I will understand them. :-)

Laura wrote:

Huh? Nobody is permitted to criticize Kerry if they weren't draft eligible 30+
years ago?

That's not what he said. Basically, if you aren't old enough to have been affected by
Vietnam, you have no business criticizing either those who served in it or those who
protested the war for doing so. Want to talk about Kerry's record in the Senate, go
ahead, but if you're under 50, shut up about Vietnam.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

In article , "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

That's not what he said. Basically, if you aren't old enough to have been
affected by
Vietnam, you have no business criticizing either those who served in it
or those who
protested the war for doing so. Want to talk about Kerry's record in the
Senate, go
ahead, but if you're under 50, shut up about Vietnam.

So, if you are under, say 100, shut up about slavery?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article , "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

That's not what he said. Basically, if you aren't old enough to have
been
affected by
Vietnam, you have no business criticizing either those who served in it
or those who
protested the war for doing so. Want to talk about Kerry's record in the
Senate, go
ahead, but if you're under 50, shut up about Vietnam.

So, if you are under, say 100, shut up about slavery?

And if you're under 200, shut up about the American Revolution.