Run In With Mr. Edwards

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Jay Honeck wrote:

and now, Jay, just imagine the prez coming to IOW for a couple of days,
shutting
down your airport, denying access to your plane (so you can't even wash
it) and
everybody (this means: you, Mary, your kids, your employees and your
guests) and
his dog coming to your hotel is bodysearched ... security, you know. don't
like
the idea?

Since so many are having trouble distinguishing the salient point of my
post, let me say it again. This time in super-sloooow-mooootion, for the
reading impaired:

John Edwards isn't the President. He isn't the Vice-President. He is
nobody but a run-of-the-mill Senator.

Um, no. He's the Democratic Party's canidate for VP, as of earlier this
month. He also happens to be a Senator, but seriously: if he got offed, it
would at least disrupt the Dem's political campaign. The whole point of
protection for canidates is to prevent disruption of the democratic
process, more or less.

I'm not even an American, for Dog's sake, and the above is obvious to
me...

Tell us: If your entire trip had been scuttled by a Shrub/Cheney TFR,
would you even have posted anything about it?

Brian.



I have no problem with giving the President of the United States the
tightest possible security. If George Bush had been in Des Moines, I would
have completely understood the treatment I received.

Giving a dime-a-dozen politician this kind of protection, however, is
patently absurd.

But "this" the result of the Bush/Cheney "team."

mike regish

If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.

Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:50:56 -0700, "Jay Beckman"
wrote in mQdWc.93789$Lj.58952@fed1read03::


The fact that the "unwashed masses" now view any type of aircraft with a
jaundiced eye is by far the saddest and most disgusting after effect of
9/11.

Just my $0.02...

Jay Beckman
Student Pilot - KCHD
39.3 Hrs ... Nowhere to go but up!



Larry,

Thanks...Um, I think...

Jay

"Travis Marlatte" wrote in message
ink.net...
I wish it didn't have to happen but I think it does. We have entered an
era
where almost any disruption to our political process would be seen as a
small victory by one group or another.

Ah, but we forget that in politics perception is everything.

They only get their victory when we allow an event (whether 9/11, political
distruption, or worse...) to be seen as a "really big deal". Then the
groups know that they have something, and become encouraged and bold.

If we snarl quietly behind gritted teeth and a bland exterior... ferret out
the perps, their financiers, and supporters, like in any other crime... make
some quiet adjustments and go on with business as usual... these groups
cannot be sure that they have hurt a powerful democracy in any significant
way.

Treat your own citizens like potential terrorists and the real terrorists
get to think... "hey, they believe everyone is a terrorist...we can blend
right in!!

*** A great civilization is not conquered from without until it
has destroyed itself from within. ***
- Ariel Durant 1898-1981

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:21:37 GMT, "Geoffrey Barnes"
wrote:

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure that the decision to provide security to candidates (not
senators per se) lies with the Secret Service and could not be refused.

SS protection can be refused. Nixon, for example, released the SS several
years after he resigned. I'm not sure if he retained private bodyguards, or
whether he just gave up on having bodyguards altoghether, but it does show
that a "principal" can tell the SS to get lost if he or she wants to.

Has nobody watched "Guarding Tess" lately?

"Jay Masino" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I blamed the Democratic V.P. candidate directly because that is where
the
blame lies. In my world, the boss takes the blame for his subordinates.

Edwards has absolutely no control over what the Secret Service does.

100 percent not true.

"Chuck" wrote in message
m...

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Maybe Jay should consider moving away from Iowa (or the US in general)
if he can't tolerate such things.



Jay, you can get the crap stirred up more than I can! Your good.

What happened to your right to free speech? You voice your opinion and now
you are being told to leave the country because of you voicing your
opinion...

What a country...

Kerry did what Jay did and now he is in contention for the top job.

What a country....

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...
You might re-read this...constants don't change at all; that's why we call
them constants.


Depends on how good a programmer you are!!

CJ. **** You, you sanctimonious, psycotic piece of ****, faggot, scum
sucking, lying whore of the bushies.

I've wanted to say that for a long ****ing time but didn't out of
poloiteness to the rest of the group. . **** that and **** you. I hope you
rot in your own excrement.

And your faggot, coward loverboy Bush is the biggest, phoniest asshole I've
ever seen. It's people like you who **** up the bell curve and make it
possible for such lying sack of ****, self serving liars to get in office to
begin with.

There. Now I feel better.

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much
more in the settings of his novels.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
p91Wc.21556$9d6.17529@attbi_s54::

If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.

I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign.

But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured.

I sincerely hope not. They should have shot the lying, treasonous war
criminal a long time ago. He betrayed his country, he betrayed everyone
who
served in Vietnam, he met with enemy leaders, he deliberately killed
babies
and then justified by claiming in Congressional testimony that everyone
else
was doing it, he left his one of his own men for dead while fleeing from
an
imaginary attack and only turned around when shamed into it, two of his
Purple Hearts are for self inflicted wounds, he disgraced the medals that
he
is now so proud of, and he plotted to kill United States senators. He does
not deny any of this; instead he resorts to personal attacks against those
who are exposing the truth about him. If personal attacks do not silence
his
enemies, he resorts to threats of violence and lawsuits, which shows what
he
thinks of freedom of speech.

It speaks volumes about the Democrats that they have sunk so low as to put
such a slimeball up for the Presidency. The Democratic Party no longer
respects America or Americans, but is solely focused on using fraud and
deceit to achieve power in any way that it can. If this behavior continues
the only outcome can be civil war.

mike regish wrote:
CJ. **** You, you sanctimonious, psycotic piece of ****, faggot, scum
sucking, lying whore of the bushies.

I've wanted to say that for a long ****ing time but didn't out of
poloiteness to the rest of the group. . **** that and **** you. I
hope you rot in your own excrement.

And your faggot, coward loverboy Bush is the biggest, phoniest
asshole I've ever seen. It's people like you who **** up the bell
curve and make it possible for such lying sack of ****, self serving
liars to get in office to begin with.

There. Now I feel better.

mike regish



You have major issues.



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