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Old August 24th 04, 04:58 PM
H.P.
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Your points are well taken but if AOPA and other lobbying groups hope to
limit product liability any further for GA, a democrat, in general, and a
"trial" lawyer, in particular, are not likely to be proponents of product
liability reform. As for Mueller Airport, I'm not sure that Bush could have
or should have had a role in preventing its closure, for whatever reason it
closed. I'm not so sure that restraint on TFRs is practiced with GA in mind,
as
opposed to heavy/commercial.





"Malcolm Teas" wrote in message
om...
"H.P." wrote in message

m...
How in heavens name would a GA pilot vote for Edwards, a personal injury
lawyer who's inclined to sue General Aviation out of existence? He's
already attempted to sue Obstetricians into oblivion so that pregnant

moms
sometimes have to fly to the nearest available OB\GYN willing to

deliver
their babies! And can you tell me that John F'n Ketchup won't regulate

or
tax GA to death?


Do you have grounds for this? Or is a just a rant? It's fine with me
if you want to rant, I just want to distinguish it, that's all.

I've been following multiple news sources and here's what I've seen on
the candidates and GA: Nothing on Edwards feelings for GA one way or
the other. But, might have missed something.

Kerry's an active GA pilot and would be expected to have some
understanding of the issues facing GA. Neither Kerry or Edwards has
asked for TFRs when campaigning, that might mean they're GA-friendly.

Bush is an inactive pilot and in TX showed no interest one way or the
other in GA. He let Mueller airport in Austin close without comment.
Since then there's a lack of a good GA airport in central TX.

Cheney's not a pilot and doesn't seem to have a concern about GA
either way from what I see. Both he and Bush have those fun TFRs
following them around the country. And both apparently support the
Wash. DC ADIZ.

From the scant evidence I see KE may be a little more in favor of GA
than BC are. But, frankly GA isn't showing up on either party's
radar.

-Malcolm Teas



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Old August 24th 04, 07:19 PM
Andrew Gideon
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H.P. wrote:

Your points are well taken but if AOPA and other lobbying groups hope to
limit product liability any further for GA, a democrat, in general, and a
"trial" lawyer, in particular, are not likely to be proponents of product
liability reform.


Take a look at Ashcroft's statements before joining the Bush administration.
He was rabidly biased towards state's rights. Since joining the Bush
administration, he's taken a very federalist view.

I've no idea what prompted this change. Is he burying his own opinions in
favor of those of his boss (not unreasonable)? Did something actually
change his mind?

Bush himself was against nation-building and strongly in favor of free
trade.

I mention these because it's not always clear what will happen when someone
is put in charge.

- Andrew

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Old August 25th 04, 04:18 AM
Jay Honeck
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Take a look at Ashcroft's statements before joining the Bush
administration.
He was rabidly biased towards state's rights. Since joining the Bush
administration, he's taken a very federalist view.

I've no idea what prompted this change. Is he burying his own opinions in
favor of those of his boss (not unreasonable)? Did something actually
change his mind?

Bush himself was against nation-building and strongly in favor of free
trade.


You make your statement as if Ashcroft's and Bush's philosophical changes
occurred in a vacuum.

Both men have been influenced by 9/11, and the resulting war. It's hard to
worry too much about state's rights and to be against nation building when
you're leading a country at war.

State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is over.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 25th 04, 05:12 AM
Bob Fry
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is over.


Ever the optimist.

How will we know when this "war" is over? When some future president
playing boy soldier tells us it is?
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Old August 25th 04, 01:02 PM
Jay Honeck
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State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and
always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is

over.

Ever the optimist.

How will we know when this "war" is over? When some future president
playing boy soldier tells us it is?


Perhaps the ketchup king has a "secret plan" to win the hearts and minds of
the people who are trying to kill us...? (I keep waiting to hear what that
plan is, but, alas, all Mr. Kerry seems to do is mention "bringing the
international community" into the conflict -- and then he changes the
subject back to his war record...)

If I were him, I'd let Edwards unleash the product liability lawyers onto
the newly freed (and unsuspecting) public in Iraq. That would bring the
terrorists to their knees in a matter of months!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 25th 04, 04:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

newly freed public in Iraq


If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 25th 04, 04:05 PM
Jay Honeck
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If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.


Don't read the papers much, eh?

There's this thing called "democracy" growing over there. Give it time --
it might catch.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 25th 04, 04:23 PM
Newps
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Jay,


newly freed public in Iraq



If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.


More than 95% of the Iraqi countryside is enjoying freedom right now.
The only parts you hear about on the news is the bad parts.

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Old August 26th 04, 12:37 AM
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In article ud%Wc.56982$Fg5.9642@attbi_s53, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Perhaps the ketchup king has a "secret plan" to win the hearts and minds


if waffle told everyone his plan, it wouldn't be secret anymore.

shessh

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.
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Old August 26th 04, 05:09 AM
Tom S.
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ud%Wc.56982$Fg5.9642@attbi_s53, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Perhaps the ketchup king has a "secret plan" to win the hearts and minds


if waffle told everyone his plan, it wouldn't be secret anymore.


Then he'd have to kill us all.

Let's see: maybe a .50 cal in the back?



 




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