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Old August 24th 04, 07:19 PM
Andrew Gideon
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H.P. wrote:

Your points are well taken but if AOPA and other lobbying groups hope to
limit product liability any further for GA, a democrat, in general, and a
"trial" lawyer, in particular, are not likely to be proponents of product
liability reform.


Take a look at Ashcroft's statements before joining the Bush administration.
He was rabidly biased towards state's rights. Since joining the Bush
administration, he's taken a very federalist view.

I've no idea what prompted this change. Is he burying his own opinions in
favor of those of his boss (not unreasonable)? Did something actually
change his mind?

Bush himself was against nation-building and strongly in favor of free
trade.

I mention these because it's not always clear what will happen when someone
is put in charge.

- Andrew

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Old August 25th 04, 04:18 AM
Jay Honeck
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Take a look at Ashcroft's statements before joining the Bush
administration.
He was rabidly biased towards state's rights. Since joining the Bush
administration, he's taken a very federalist view.

I've no idea what prompted this change. Is he burying his own opinions in
favor of those of his boss (not unreasonable)? Did something actually
change his mind?

Bush himself was against nation-building and strongly in favor of free
trade.


You make your statement as if Ashcroft's and Bush's philosophical changes
occurred in a vacuum.

Both men have been influenced by 9/11, and the resulting war. It's hard to
worry too much about state's rights and to be against nation building when
you're leading a country at war.

State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is over.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 25th 04, 05:12 AM
Bob Fry
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is over.


Ever the optimist.

How will we know when this "war" is over? When some future president
playing boy soldier tells us it is?
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Old August 25th 04, 01:02 PM
Jay Honeck
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State's Rights and free trade are subjugated during wartime -- and
always
have been. Don't worry -- they'll be back again, after this one is

over.

Ever the optimist.

How will we know when this "war" is over? When some future president
playing boy soldier tells us it is?


Perhaps the ketchup king has a "secret plan" to win the hearts and minds of
the people who are trying to kill us...? (I keep waiting to hear what that
plan is, but, alas, all Mr. Kerry seems to do is mention "bringing the
international community" into the conflict -- and then he changes the
subject back to his war record...)

If I were him, I'd let Edwards unleash the product liability lawyers onto
the newly freed (and unsuspecting) public in Iraq. That would bring the
terrorists to their knees in a matter of months!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 25th 04, 04:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

newly freed public in Iraq


If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 25th 04, 04:05 PM
Jay Honeck
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If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.


Don't read the papers much, eh?

There's this thing called "democracy" growing over there. Give it time --
it might catch.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 26th 04, 08:00 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

There's this thing called "democracy" growing over there. Give it time --
it might catch.


Oh yeah, I remember reading about it. A place called Abu Graib seems to be a
true stronghold of democracy in Iraq.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 27th 04, 02:08 AM
Bob Fry
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.


Don't read the papers much, eh?

There's this thing called "democracy" growing over there.


What???!!!

Give it time --
it might catch.


Snide Answer #1: Yea, we could use some democracy over here...seeing
as how our current President was not chosen democratically.

Snide Answer #2: Oh, you want other countries to have armed militias
and mobs running around blowing up anything that moves?
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Old August 25th 04, 04:23 PM
Newps
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Jay,


newly freed public in Iraq



If your world has a freed public in Iraq, it is certainly very
different from mine.


More than 95% of the Iraqi countryside is enjoying freedom right now.
The only parts you hear about on the news is the bad parts.

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Old August 25th 04, 04:32 PM
Stefan
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Newps wrote:

More than 95% of the Iraqi countryside is enjoying freedom right now.
The only parts you hear about on the news is the bad parts.


How often and how long have you been there? And, of course, you speak
fluently Arabic, so you could actually talk to people.

Stefan

 




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