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Old August 26th 04, 10:34 PM
Richard Herring
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"B S D Chapman" mail-at-benchapman-dot-co-dot-uk wrote

I just wish they got the
engine reliability sorted out.

What's wrong with diesel reliability?
Are you aware of known issues
or does it just remain to be proven?


Apparently Cabair are having lots of trouble with their DA40tdi's.

General reliability, stoppages while airbourne. Unpleasent excitement!!

Still, that's why the DA42 has two )


An aircraft owner who is still within the two year warranty isn't
going to talk publicly about his problems, especially if it is a high
profile business. As I know only too damn well, one has to go back to
the official dealer for practically everything so one needs to
maintain a good relationship with them. So, even allowing for the fact
that only a very small proportion of pilots are "online", we aren't
going to find out much about what is going on here for a few years.
But there is no way you would get me to buy this product now.

There are two ** really major ** black holes for money he the
diesel engines and their electronics, and the glass panel cockpits.
Both are almost entirely untested as far as a variety of operating
patterns around the world is concerned.

Maybe in 3-4 years' time.


and unless some people are prepared to test out the new technology then we
never find out what it can do.


Right. They are generally called "test pilots" and trained and rewarded
accordingly. They aren't what the Marketing Dept. refers to as
"punters".

Thanks for your contribution to aviation
development, its much appreciated.

And yours is, O Anonymous One?

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Richard Herring
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Old August 27th 04, 07:26 AM
John Bishop
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and unless some people are prepared to test out the new technology then

we
never find out what it can do.


Right. They are generally called "test pilots" and trained and rewarded
accordingly. They aren't what the Marketing Dept. refers to as
"punters".

I don't think many flying schools would prosper if they advertised

"Come and train in the latest Thunderbird 1 aircraft, sporting the latest
technology and a great new diesel engine. (Disclaimer: This engine has not
been thoroughly tested. It may stop suddenly on final approach, or during
spin awareness training, or at any time. Also the glass cockit may fail
completely during IMC approaches. These events are completely normal and
WizzBang Flying Club cannot be held responsible for your death if this
happens)"

Great sales pitch!

John


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Old August 27th 04, 08:52 PM
Michael
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"John Bishop" wrote
I don't think many flying schools would prosper if they advertised

"Come and train in the latest Thunderbird 1 aircraft, sporting the latest
technology and a great new diesel engine. (Disclaimer: This engine has not
been thoroughly tested. It may stop suddenly on final approach, or during
spin awareness training, or at any time. Also the glass cockit may fail
completely during IMC approaches. These events are completely normal and
WizzBang Flying Club cannot be held responsible for your death if this
happens)"


My experience working at a parachute school indicates you are
completely wrong about this. Whenever someone died parachuting and
the death made the local papers, the first jump classes were full for
weeks.

Any publicity is good publicity as long as they spell your name right.

BTW - what does it say about the value of certification if it doesn't
even assure reliability on the first production run?

Michael
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Old August 27th 04, 10:32 PM
Graham Wilson
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:26:20 +0100, "John Bishop"
wrote:


"Come and train in the latest Thunderbird 1 aircraft, sporting the latest
technology and a great new diesel engine. (Disclaimer: This engine has not
been thoroughly tested. It may stop suddenly on final approach, or during
spin awareness training, or at any time. Also the glass cockit may fail
completely during IMC approaches. These events are completely normal and
WizzBang Flying Club cannot be held responsible for your death if this
happens)"

Great sales pitch!


Don't forget the Unfair Contract Terms Act (1977) - you can't exclude
liability for death or personal injury.

(:-)

Graham


 




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