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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote
I actually really don't care if some politician has an affair. But I do care when those on the other side of the political fence make enough of it to disrupt the workings of government. How about those that committed rape, in the literal sense of the word, while they were governor? And why is having the workings of government disrupted necessarily a bad thing? Jim Rosinski N3825Q |
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Tom S. wrote:
smackey wrote: ...the necessary security that surrounds every major pres/VP candidate. Teddy Roosevelt, Milwaukee 1912. Thanks for the great set-up, TS. I can't imagine Kerry deciding that since he wasn't coughing up blood that he would press on with his scheduled speech after taking a bullet, as TR did. We could expect JFK2, IAW his previous behavior WRT PH and other medal claims, to proclaim himself a hero from a plush hospital suite, while Edwards launched huge civil law suits against every deep pocket within a hundred miles. Sirhan Bishara Sirhan, an Arab terrorist if ever there was one, would make a better example of why Presidential candidates need protection. Of course, there is no expectation that Kerry could change this country for the better, as RFK could have done. Jack |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote
It's kinda refreshing to see the Libertarians running a legitimate candidate for office. Not the usual unelectable nut-case type they've run in the past... It's a little late for a response to this, but I couldn't let it go by unchallenged. For now any Libertarian running for president is by definition unelectable so no argument there. But "nut-case type"? Harry Browne (last two elections) and Ron Paul before that are nothing of the sort. Browne is one of the most well-reasoned and soft-spoken politicians I've ever heard. Ron Paul became a Republican US congressman after his unsuccessful Presidential run. Perhaps you're thinking of Russel Means, who ran something like 12 years ago but lost the nomination (to Ron Paul?). Maybe a hothead, but still way better than anybody the Republicans or Democrats have inflicted on us since. Jim Rosinski N3825Q |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:nARXc.246074$eM2.18242@attbi_s51... Just wondering what "compromise" means to a mid-westerner. Compromise can't really happen until we return to a time before political correctness made it wrong to call someone "crippled" but made it okay to vocally and publicly insult someone for what they believe. Sadly, I don't think this is going to change soon, as the moral issues dividing the two parties are so stark. see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals, and they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into power. The problem with two party politics is that its really a case of having a pig in a poke. Its damnation whichever way you vote. some political commentator commented that "every political career ends in failure". cb |
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![]() "Jim Rosinski" wrote in message m... Harry Browne (last two elections) and Ron Paul before that are nothing of the sort. Browne is one of the most well-reasoned and soft-spoken politicians I've ever heard. Hmm...I found him loaded with contradictions and his "virtual anarchist" stance was adolescent at best. But then, I worked on the 1996 campaign team for Rick Tomkins. |
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In article , "CB"
wrote: see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals, and they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into power. nope. the sole objective is being re-elected. think about it. -- Bob Noel Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal" oh yeah baby. |
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Six paragraphs of blather, but no answer to the actual question asked.
And why exactly does "compromise" represent some sort of holy grail you seem to imply? Because if the people of the United States don't re-learn what "compromise" means, we're headed down a one-way path to Balkanization. In some ways, and in some locales, it's already happened. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Sadly, I don't think this is going to change soon, as the moral issues
dividing the two parties are so stark. see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals, and they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into power. I didn't say the "party's moral issues are stark" -- I said "the moral issues dividing the two parties are so stark." The parties have no morals. However, the moral issues (abortion; taxes; marriage; stem cell research; etc.) that separate the parties are in areas that don't lend themselves well to compromise, since there are usually only two diametrically opposed choices for each issue. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:brbYc.251496$eM2.49663@attbi_s51... snip However, the moral issues (abortion; taxes; marriage; stem cell research; etc.) that separate the parties are in areas that don't lend themselves well to compromise, since there are usually only two diametrically opposed choices for each issue. But there are plenty of people in each party that disagree with the party line on one or more of these issues. Cheney's stance on the marraige amendment is a particularly interesting example. There are plenty of Republicans who wish President Bush would leave his religion at church. I know Rush Limbaugh fans who believe the second amendment is outdated. And there are Democrats who are against abortion. And for school vouchers. (Put me at the top of the school voucher list) While the party lines are didactic and polarized, the populations within them are much more diverse. Michael |
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"Michael 182" wrote
While the party lines are didactic and polarized, the populations within them are much more diverse. In some ways yes. But on the absolutely crucial issue (to me anyway) of the growth of government, the Reps. and Dems. stand united: bigger government is good. Dems. want to pay for it with higher taxes. Reps. want to pay for it with higher budget deficits. Pick your poison. Jim Rosinski N3825Q |
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