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  #331  
Old August 28th 04, 06:26 PM
Jim Rosinski
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote

I actually
really don't care if some politician has an affair. But I do care when
those on the other side of the political fence make enough of it to disrupt
the workings of government.


How about those that committed rape, in the literal sense of the word,
while they were governor?

And why is having the workings of government disrupted necessarily a
bad thing?

Jim Rosinski
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Old August 28th 04, 08:11 PM
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Tom S. wrote:

smackey wrote:

...the necessary security that
surrounds every major pres/VP candidate.


Teddy Roosevelt, Milwaukee 1912.


Thanks for the great set-up, TS.

I can't imagine Kerry deciding that since he wasn't coughing up blood that he would
press on with his scheduled speech after taking a bullet, as TR did. We could expect
JFK2, IAW his previous behavior WRT PH and other medal claims, to proclaim himself a
hero from a plush hospital suite, while Edwards launched huge civil law suits against
every deep pocket within a hundred miles.

Sirhan Bishara Sirhan, an Arab terrorist if ever there was one, would make a better
example of why Presidential candidates need protection. Of course, there is no
expectation that Kerry could change this country for the better, as RFK could have done.


Jack
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Old August 28th 04, 10:48 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

It's kinda refreshing to see the Libertarians running a legitimate candidate
for office. Not the usual unelectable nut-case type they've run in the
past...


It's a little late for a response to this, but I couldn't let it go by
unchallenged. For now any Libertarian running for president is by
definition unelectable so no argument there. But "nut-case type"?
Harry Browne (last two elections) and Ron Paul before that are nothing
of the sort. Browne is one of the most well-reasoned and soft-spoken
politicians I've ever heard. Ron Paul became a Republican US
congressman after his unsuccessful Presidential run. Perhaps you're
thinking of Russel Means, who ran something like 12 years ago but lost
the nomination (to Ron Paul?). Maybe a hothead, but still way better
than anybody the Republicans or Democrats have inflicted on us since.

Jim Rosinski
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  #334  
Old August 29th 04, 01:50 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Just wondering what "compromise" means to a mid-westerner.


Compromise can't really happen until we return to a time before political
correctness made it wrong to call someone "crippled" but made it okay to
vocally and publicly insult someone for what they believe.

Sadly, I don't think this is going to change soon, as the moral issues

dividing the two parties are so stark.


see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals, and
they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into power.

The problem with two party politics is that its really a case of having a
pig in a poke. Its damnation whichever way you vote.

some political commentator commented that "every political career ends in
failure".

cb


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Old August 29th 04, 02:06 AM
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"Jim Rosinski" wrote in message
m...
Harry Browne (last two elections) and Ron Paul before that are nothing
of the sort. Browne is one of the most well-reasoned and soft-spoken
politicians I've ever heard.


Hmm...I found him loaded with contradictions and his "virtual anarchist"
stance was adolescent at best.

But then, I worked on the 1996 campaign team for Rick Tomkins.



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Old August 29th 04, 03:18 AM
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In article , "CB"
wrote:

see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals,
and
they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into
power.


nope. the sole objective is being re-elected.

think about it.

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Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.
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Old August 29th 04, 03:39 AM
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Six paragraphs of blather, but no answer to the actual question asked.
And why exactly does "compromise" represent some sort of holy grail
you seem to imply?


Because if the people of the United States don't re-learn what "compromise"
means, we're headed down a one-way path to Balkanization.

In some ways, and in some locales, it's already happened.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 29th 04, 03:45 AM
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Sadly, I don't think this is going to change soon, as the moral issues
dividing the two parties are so stark.


see that's your problem Jay you are naive. Neither party has any morals,

and
they are so united in the one thing they have in common, getting into

power.

I didn't say the "party's moral issues are stark" -- I said "the moral
issues dividing the two parties are so stark."

The parties have no morals. However, the moral issues (abortion; taxes;
marriage; stem cell research; etc.) that separate the parties are in areas
that don't lend themselves well to compromise, since there are usually only
two diametrically opposed choices for each issue.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #339  
Old August 29th 04, 06:00 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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snip However, the moral issues (abortion; taxes;
marriage; stem cell research; etc.) that separate the parties are in areas
that don't lend themselves well to compromise, since there are usually

only
two diametrically opposed choices for each issue.


But there are plenty of people in each party that disagree with the party
line on one or more of these issues. Cheney's stance on the marraige
amendment is a particularly interesting example. There are plenty of
Republicans who wish President Bush would leave his religion at church. I
know Rush Limbaugh fans who believe the second amendment is outdated. And
there are Democrats who are against abortion. And for school vouchers. (Put
me at the top of the school voucher list)

While the party lines are didactic and polarized, the populations within
them are much more diverse.

Michael


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Old August 29th 04, 04:49 PM
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"Michael 182" wrote

While the party lines are didactic and polarized, the populations within
them are much more diverse.


In some ways yes. But on the absolutely crucial issue (to me anyway)
of the growth of government, the Reps. and Dems. stand united: bigger
government is good. Dems. want to pay for it with higher taxes. Reps.
want to pay for it with higher budget deficits. Pick your poison.

Jim Rosinski
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