Pilots and driving

Yeah, stay away from Chino airport unless you're actually going to the
airport. And even then, be careful. It's all farm land out there, for now,
and the main road goes right across the departure end of the runways. At any
point (especially the first Saturday of every month), you could be overflown
by B-25s, P-51s, P-38s, or any of a number of other planes. The first
Satruday of the month, the museum there features a certain airplane or
person or era and flies something relating to it. I got to their annual
airshow a little late this year, arriving just as they were doing their
naval airpower demo. Hellcats, Wildcats, Bearcats, Tigercats, an Avenger,
and Skyraiders were part of this, among others.

Man, now I want to go. Oooh, next weekend is "Royal Air Force In Action"
according to their website. I might have to take a trip out there.......

-Tony
Student Pilot
31.3 Hours


"Jeff Glenn" wrote...

In San Diego two major freeways merge not far from the end of the main
runways at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station (former Miramar Naval Air
Station - home of Top Gun). There is a lot of lane changing with fast
and slow traffic crossing in front of each other, numerous entrance and
exit ramps, and there are commuter lanes in the center divider that
change direction with the commute. Traffic is always heavy and driving
through this mess requires intense concentration and quick reactions.

Just a few hundred feet above this chaos F/A 18s are making the turn to
final.

I find it extremely difficult to not be distracted by these low-flying
warplanes while avoiding cars all around me. It gets worse in the days
before the annual air show when a large variety of interesting planes
are flying in. A BUFF or C5B on short final really gets your attention!

I've managed to avoid any accidents so far, but it's not easy.


Are there any other places that have high potential for pilot
distraction while driving?



Jeff

What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3 that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure. I thought maybe the
airplane had been used as a fertilizer hauler, but it had all its passenger
seats. Back on the ground I asked a bystander if he had any idea why the
plane was redolent of cattle poop. "Oh, it's from Chino," he said, as if
that explained it all, and he offered no details.

wrote in message
...
Yeah, stay away from Chino airport unless you're actually going to the
airport.

Chino is, for the time being, surrounded by farmland. The aroma is part of
the experience and makes it Chino. I tried to tell my friends this as we
passed fields of cows and sheep. They didn't buy it. I guess you have to
really love the airplanes.


-Tony
Student Pilot
31.3 Hours



"Henry Kisor" wrote...
What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3
that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure. I thought maybe the
airplane had been used as a fertilizer hauler, but it had all its
passenger
seats. Back on the ground I asked a bystander if he had any idea why the
plane was redolent of cattle poop. "Oh, it's from Chino," he said, as if
that explained it all, and he offered no details.

wrote in message
...
Yeah, stay away from Chino airport unless you're actually going to the
airport.

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:47:17 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

plane was redolent of cattle poop. "Oh, it's from Chino," he said, as if
that explained it all, and he offered no details.

Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.

When I did stalls/aerobatic training at Chandler AZ, in hot March
weather, I drove past a stockyard on my way back to the motel, at noon
and again at four o'clock. Each day the smell made me just a bit more
queasy. I don't think I could have done a sixth day of aerobatics.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver warbird wrote:
When I did stalls/aerobatic training at Chandler
AZ, in hot March weather, I drove past a stockyard
on my way back to the motel, at noon and again at
four o'clock. Each day the smell made me just a bit
more queasy. I don't think I could have done a sixth
day of aerobatics.

If you're driving past them, sure. The air in the early a.m. at Chandler smells
like the stockyard, and if you're in an open cockpit, there's probably no
avoiding it at last near the airport, but our other *airplanes* don't smell
like cows inside! (that's pretty strange!)

Cub Driver wrote:

Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.

Well, a DC-3 is likely to stay on the ground most of the time. After sitting in that
atmosphere for a long time, I think it would take lots of airing out to remove the
smell.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.


Maybe not, but it likes to linger every where else.
I smelled it just the other morning while getting ready to buzz out of
Ontario..
I even smelled it when I lived in Anaheim when the winds were blowing just
right.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

Cub Driver wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:47:17 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:


plane was redolent of cattle poop. "Oh, it's from Chino," he said, as if
that explained it all, and he offered no details.


Well, there are stockyards all along the road to Chino, but that
shouldn't linger in the aircraft.


Once, while driving down the freeway east of Chino during Santa Ana
winds, I noticed that there was a lot of brown stuff from a nearby
stockyard moving horizontally across the freeway. Hot, dry winds can
carry manure dust everywhere and some of it probably gets into airplanes
at Chino.




- Jeff

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:48:24 -0700, Jeff Glenn
wrote:

Once, while driving down the freeway east of Chino during Santa Ana
winds, I noticed that there was a lot of brown stuff from a nearby
stockyard moving horizontally across the freeway. Hot, dry winds can
carry manure dust everywhere and some of it probably gets into airplanes
at Chino.

Aha!

(Having asthma in Chino must really give you something to think
about.)

I guess the day was calm when I visited Planes of Fame. I smelled the
aroma driving to the airport but didn't notice it particularly while
wandering around.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Henry Kisor" wrote in message ...
What is it about Chino, anyway? Some years ago I took a ride on a DC-3 that
was part of an air show at Cable airport in Upland, Calif. When I climbed
aboard I noticed a definite aroma of cow manure.

I have flown over feedlots in Kansas and noticed a definite odor at
over 1000 feet. Also, odor from grass fires gets really strong too.
--
Gene Seibel
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Because I fly, I envy no one.