Unnecessary verbiage or sensible redundancy?

But if you always use a leading zero, then you always know you have received
the entire number. If you're using a mix of single digit and two digit
numbers you can never be assured you received correct information on the
10 numbers.




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Tony Cox" wrote in message
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Pilot calls "..left base, two". Could be either 2 or 20 & you know there
is an error. But you're none the wiser as to where he is. Worse case you
assume he's just being lazy with the "Jean traffic" bit & think he's on
base for 2.

Pilot calls "..left base, zero". Error detected, but a reasonable
assumption
is that he is heading for 2.

Which is less likely to lead to problems? And safety is no worse because
some people are announcing the leading zero while some aren't, so you
don't need 100% compliance.


Using leading zeros creates the possibility of transposing numbers. A
pilot
might say "zero two" when he means "two zero". With just "two" there's
nothing to transpose.



BTW, how does ATC call vectors? Don't they say things like "Cherokee
blah-blah turn right heading zero-two-zero", rather than just "two-zero"
?
Been a while & I can't remember.


Three numbers are used when issuing headings.

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

But if you always use a leading zero, then you always know you
have received the entire number.


But not necessarily the correct number.



If you're using a mix of single digit
and two digit numbers you can never be assured you received
correct information on the 10 numbers.


If the guy says "...runway two Podunk.", I know he's referring to runway two
at Podunk. If he says "...runway zero two Podunk.", I know there's the
possibility that he transposed the numbers and actually meant runway two
zero. The leading zero does nothing to improve communications if the pilot
properly ends his transmission with the airport name.

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:18:01 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

If the guy says "...runway two Podunk.", I know he's referring to runway two
at Podunk.


Unless he's making a reference "...TO podunk." Then the zero would
help.

No right answer with this one it seems.

z

"zatatime" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:18:01 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

If the guy says "...runway two Podunk.", I know he's referring to
runway two at Podunk.


Unless he's making a reference "...TO podunk." Then the zero would
help.


What would "runway zero to Podunk" mean?



No right answer with this one it seems.


Yes there is.