Aviation crash videos on-line

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Yes, a "sigh" is what I would expect from someone who would feel the
need to supply this tidbit of more or less obvious information to
someone else who has spent a lifetime directly involved with the
environment and hardly needs the information explained by someone
who
hasn't.

I'll say one last thing about this, Dudley, and then we'll move on:

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers, but my "obvious" examples were meant
to
expand on my ethical point -- not to "educate you" about air racing.

Remember, I wasn't the one expressing dismay and surprise that someone
would
actually take a picture (or video) of a plane crash and its aftermath.
Since, to me, this is the ultimate in "more or less obvious
information" --
I was quite surprised that you were upset that someone would do this.

Which is why I asked about your logic in the first place.

Sorry I asked.

You don't have to be sorry you asked. The "problem" didn't occur because
you "asked". The problem occurred because what you were "asking" and the
reasons I have for objecting are two different issues that you see as
one simple issue involving a simple definition of the ethics involved.
The "ethics" that I was attacking and will always continue to attack are
not as clearly cut as you would like to have them. The physical act of
taking a picture at an air show disaster is only the tip of a large
iceberg. The REASON for taking that picture, and what the photographer
does with the picture after it's been taken is the area of my concern,
NOT the fact that the picture was taken per se, which seems to be the
crux of everything you have been attempting to "explain" to me.
There is nothing improper about taking photographs or filming a video
during an air race or air show disaster IF the reason for taking these
pictures isn't prurient. A video shot as a record of the event or to be
used as news of the event is one thing. That's ethical. A video of a
crash used in a safety program designed to help prevent the same
accident from happening again is more than ethical. It's advisable!
On the other hand, there are those who take these photographs and film
these videos for no other reason than their own prurient interest; a
record for them personally to "enjoy" watching and to pass on to others
in the public forum as their " the thrill of the day". Photographers who
use these photographs in their "hobby" and present them to the public
seeking only acclaim for their skill as photographers are completely
unethical to us in the airshow community. These people, displaying an
aspect of human nature that will unfortunately always be with us, are in
my opinion unethical. On the airshow circuit we think of them as human
leeches standing there with their cameras waiting for one of us to die
so they can catch the moment on film to later be released by them for
their own purpose unrelated to anything but their own amusement or
profit.
The only ethics involved with this issue are the ethics involved for the
reasons the camera shutter clicks. There are good reasons and there are
bad reasons. The photographers I have so strongly objected to are the
one's with the "bad" reasons; the thrill seekers; the "hobbyists".
Any race or airshow pilot will tell you that the existence of crash
video is a given, and we understand that there will be pictures if
something goes wrong for us. In a way, we welcome it, because it might
help save another pilot's life, but none of us accept the leech
photographers, the paparazzi type, who come to exploit us when something
goes wrong.
These "hobby" video people fit into the unethical category for us, and
yes, we detest them!
As for people outside the airshow community discussing an issue like
this one with us; everyone of course has the right to an opinion, but
it's better that you ASK, rather than TELL when you get into something
as close to the show community as this issue. That's just a friendly
suggestion. Pilots from the community don't mind opposing viewpoint. We
do however, like a pilot to have some actual experience with what we do
before expressing that opinion too loudly :-)
I hope you and I have no hard feelings after this issue has been put
down and can continue our Usenet association in a friendly manner.
Thank you
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired

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I hope you and I have no hard feelings after this issue has been put
down and can continue our Usenet association in a friendly manner.

That, sir, is a given.

You'll have to work harder than this to **** me off!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I hope you and I have no hard feelings after this issue has been put
down and can continue our Usenet association in a friendly manner.

That, sir, is a given.

You'll have to work harder than this to **** me off!

;-)

Fair enough.

Take care,
DH