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Old September 7th 04, 01:33 AM
John Mullen
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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First of all, thank you for posting the videos.

After downloading and viewing them all (thank goodness for broadband!), some
comments:

May I suggest that 'Cool Videos' might give the wrong impression, when quite
a few people die in the incidents depicted?

The MiG 29 crash, OTOH, was in no sense tragic. Nobody was hurt even, as
someone else has pointed out.

The Airbus crash was nothing to do with the FBW system, except in the sense
that the pilots trusted overmuch in it to keep them from crashing. It was
also not the first fully automatic aircraft, or whatever the exact form of
words you use are. Basically they flew too slow and low and their planning
was poor.

What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?

Respectfully yours

John Mullen


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Old September 7th 04, 11:12 AM
Dylan Smith
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In article , John Mullen wrote:
What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?


It does have a very tenuous flying connection, and it is hilarious.

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Old September 7th 04, 12:59 PM
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What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?

It does have a very tenuous flying connection, and it is hilarious.


It is the sickest, most warped advertisement I've ever seen. It truly makes
me wonder about European consumers, if this ad actually works to sell cars.

And, God help me, I love it! It's the funniest danged thing I've ever seen.

;-)
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Old September 7th 04, 04:50 PM
Paul Sengupta
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?


It does have a very tenuous flying connection, and it is hilarious.


It is the sickest, most warped advertisement I've ever seen.


Apart from the cat one I sent you the link for...

Though that one didn't make the grade for actually being shown on TV.

It truly makes
me wonder about European consumers, if this ad actually works to sell

cars.

And, God help me, I love it! It's the funniest danged thing I've ever

seen.

Paul


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Old September 7th 04, 01:00 PM
Jay Honeck
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May I suggest that 'Cool Videos' might give the wrong impression, when
quite
a few people die in the incidents depicted?


Good point.

The "Cool Videos" title pre-dates many of the tragic videos that are now on
that page. I shall change it to something more appropriate when I get a
minute.
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Old September 7th 04, 11:26 PM
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Actually, it was the autoland feature that crashed that plane. The computer
wouldn't let the pilot go around.

mike regish

"John Mullen" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:EY%_c.306956$eM2.73249@attbi_s51...

The Airbus crash was nothing to do with the FBW system, except in the

sense
that the pilots trusted overmuch in it to keep them from crashing. It was
also not the first fully automatic aircraft, or whatever the exact form of
words you use are. Basically they flew too slow and low and their planning
was poor.

What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?

Respectfully yours

John Mullen




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Old September 8th 04, 10:46 PM
John Mullen
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"mike regish" wrote in message news:1Aq%c.148766$mD.109922@attbi_s02...
Actually, it was the autoland feature that crashed that plane. The computer
wouldn't let the pilot go around.


Actually, you are totally wrong.

"The newly delivered aircraft was to perform a charter flight on
behalf of the Mulhouse Flying Club. The crew was to overfly
Mulhouse-Habsheim airport two times (first at low speed, gear down at
100ft and the other at high speed in clean configuration) as part of
an airshow. The aircraft took off from Basle-Mulhouse at 2:41pm local
time and climbed to 1000 feet. The crew started the descent three
minutes later and Habsheim was in sight at 450ft agl. The first
officer informed the captain that the aircraft was reaching 100ft at
14:45:14. The descent continued to 50ft 8 seconds later and further to
30-35ft. Go-around power was added at 14.45:35. The A320 continued and
touched trees at the end of the runway at 14:45:40 with a 14° pitch
attitude and an engine speed of 83% N1. The plane sank slowly into the
forest and a fire broke out. Failure of the Captain to maintain
sufficient altitude and airspeed for recovery after a low approach to
a runway with obstacles near the departure end."

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/v...ine=Air+France
 




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