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Old September 8th 04, 06:46 PM
SeeAndAvoid
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I stayed out of that other topic as it became a ****ing contest between
two people that should've gone private a LONG time ago.

On the videos...when I was visiting Ground Zero a couple months
ago, there were these asian folks trying to sell "cool" books of
pictures of 9/11 at the site with a smile on their face. The mood
there was understandably pretty somber, but it was turning to
anger with these clowns hanging around and pushing their product.
I look at the guy who started this whole subject, who I'd never
personally seen in these groups before, the same way. Usually
people like him, with blatant advertising, who wasnt a regular
poster on here, would be ran out so fast it made the head spin.
Many people put up with Jay's advertising because he has been
here for a long while, before the hotel, isn't a troll, and posts
on all kinds of subjects. This other guy wasn't that at all, he just
lobs a molotov coctail of a link, and tries to justify his site that would
usually end up with everyone flaming or plonking him. Why the
special treatment?

It's nothing but sensational aviation snuff videos. If that does it
for you, have at it. It isn't censorship if someone doesnt agree
with showing them to the world with glee. Censorship is demanding
they be taken down, which I didnt hear in Dudleys (much too long)
comments. We all know there is that portion of society that likes
to see this stuff, they also like reality-tv, which, I dont know about
you, I can't wait for that fad to permanently go away. I guess some
people need to see misery, death, and destruction to either feel
"alive" or be consoled that they don't have it so bad after all. A
pretty pathetic existence IMNSHO.

Jay, I didnt see the part of your site with the crash videos, and assume
it's been altered now. But I keep up several sites that change with
time, I get the impression you added videos that weren't so "cool"
but didnt change the page description? There's not much an excuse
for a mistake like that, there is nothing to enjoy or that is cool
about the kinds of videos people have been discussing on here.
The 9/11 shots are important in that we never forget, but sure arent
enjoyable or cool, once again, in my opinion.

Chris
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Old September 9th 04, 04:28 AM
Jay Honeck
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Jay, I didnt see the part of your site with the crash videos, and assume
it's been altered now. But I keep up several sites that change with
time, I get the impression you added videos that weren't so "cool"
but didnt change the page description? There's not much an excuse
for a mistake like that, there is nothing to enjoy or that is cool
about the kinds of videos people have been discussing on here.
The 9/11 shots are important in that we never forget, but sure arent
enjoyable or cool, once again, in my opinion.


To which I pled guilty early on in that horrible, bitter thread.

I've already altered a couple of the less appropriate phrases on the site
(which can be seen at http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ), but I
haven't had time to tinker with it much. (As can be noted by the fact that
it still says "Enjoy!" after my little primer on how to make the videos
play. That single word, written long before any "disaster" type videos were
added to the site, inflamed poor Dudley to the point of apoplexy.)

As I explained elsewhere, I consider this page to be an insignificant,
off-topic page in a gigantic website, on a par with my page on "Fly-in
Museums." I put it together long ago, and have only added videos as people
have sent them to me in little dribs and drabs over the years.

The fact that I never again looked at the header for the page as I added new
(and more disastrous) video is a shame, and something I truly regret.
However, this fact would never have come to light at all had I not sent the
URL to Dudley for his critique, in hopes that he would actually help me
write some safety-related captions for each video.

THAT turned out to be a truly dumb idea, but it was all quite innocent, I
assure you.

Either way, I will be making major changes to the page in the coming days,
but right now I've got a full house and pilots here from both coasts to take
care of first.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 9th 04, 05:19 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:55Q%c.2868$MQ5.2565@attbi_s52...
Jay, I didnt see the part of your site with the crash videos, and assume
it's been altered now. But I keep up several sites that change with
time, I get the impression you added videos that weren't so "cool"
but didnt change the page description? There's not much an excuse
for a mistake like that, there is nothing to enjoy or that is cool
about the kinds of videos people have been discussing on here.
The 9/11 shots are important in that we never forget, but sure arent
enjoyable or cool, once again, in my opinion.


To which I pled guilty early on in that horrible, bitter thread.

I've already altered a couple of the less appropriate phrases on the site
(which can be seen at http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ), but

I
haven't had time to tinker with it much. (As can be noted by the fact

that
it still says "Enjoy!" after my little primer on how to make the videos
play. That single word, written long before any "disaster" type videos

were
added to the site, inflamed poor Dudley to the point of apoplexy.)

As I explained elsewhere, I consider this page to be an insignificant,
off-topic page in a gigantic website, on a par with my page on "Fly-in
Museums." I put it together long ago, and have only added videos as

people
have sent them to me in little dribs and drabs over the years.

The fact that I never again looked at the header for the page as I added

new
(and more disastrous) video is a shame, and something I truly regret.
However, this fact would never have come to light at all had I not sent

the
URL to Dudley for his critique, in hopes that he would actually help me
write some safety-related captions for each video.

THAT turned out to be a truly dumb idea, but it was all quite innocent, I
assure you.

Either way, I will be making major changes to the page in the coming days,
but right now I've got a full house and pilots here from both coasts to

take
care of first.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



I think making any changes is a mistake. Ask 100 people get 101 opinions.
I've watched 90% of the videos and I've seen pretty much every one of them
on TLC, History Channel or Discovery Channel at some point. Ignoring reality
won't make it go away, we just need to learn from our mistakes and everyone
else's. The old pilot adage of learn from other peoples mistakes because you
won't live long making them all yourself is extremely true. Pick up a copy
of Flying Magazine or Plane and Pilot, there is always stories of people
getting themselves killed with lots of good tips on what to do and not to do
to avoid the same fate.

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Old September 9th 04, 04:24 PM
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In article 55Q%c.2868$MQ5.2565@attbi_s52, Jay Honeck wrote:
To which I pled guilty early on in that horrible, bitter thread.


Yeah, we haven't had a thread like that since the fishy thing about 5
years ago.

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