Jammed Elevator

Go back and read my original posting referencing the website on
servo/anti-servo tabs.

Peter Duniho wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
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Yes, Peter, I do know that.


Then why did you write "the trim works independent of the elevator". It
certainly does not. It relies on the elevator to do its job. It is
anything *but* independent of the elevator.

There are examples of airplanes with trim that *truly* works "independent of
the elevator". For example, airplanes with horizontal stabilizers that are
adjusted with the trim control, but which have a regular elevator as well
(i.e. *not* a stabilator-equipped airplane). Another example are the Lake
amphibians, which have one or two (depending on the model) elevator-like
control surfaces (commonly called "split elevator"), hinged and controlled
completely independently from the elevator itself.

Your original comment about elevator trim made no mention of the fact that
the elevator trim behaves opposite from normal when the elevator is stuck,
nor did your follow-up post. It was not clear at all that you understood
what the elevator trim did; assuming that none of this is news to you, I
suggest you could use some work on being more specific about what you post,
and not writing things that mean something other than what you really intend
(like using the word "independent" when it's not applicable at all).

Pete

"john smith" wrote in message
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Go back and read my original posting referencing the website on
servo/anti-servo tabs.

I already read your post and the website. The content of the website is
irrelevant, since there was no indication that you actually understood what
the website says.

In any case, I'm willing to believe you have a clue. But if you do, you
completely failed to demonstrate that in either of the two posts where you
had an opportunity to do so. Your improper use of the word "independent"
completely changed whatever meaning you may have intended.

If that doesn't concern you, that's fine. I'm simply offering that insight,
and if you are unwilling to take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose.
Good luck...

Pete

Okay, if I said by independent, it is moved by cable connected to a
wheel and not by the yoke or stick, would that satisfy you?

Peter Duniho wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
...

Go back and read my original posting referencing the website on
servo/anti-servo tabs.


I already read your post and the website. The content of the website is
irrelevant, since there was no indication that you actually understood what
the website says.

In any case, I'm willing to believe you have a clue. But if you do, you
completely failed to demonstrate that in either of the two posts where you
had an opportunity to do so. Your improper use of the word "independent"
completely changed whatever meaning you may have intended.

If that doesn't concern you, that's fine. I'm simply offering that insight,
and if you are unwilling to take advantage of it, it's no skin off my nose.
Good luck...

Pete

"john smith" wrote in message
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Okay, if I said by independent, it is moved by cable connected to a
wheel and not by the yoke or stick, would that satisfy you?

It's not a question of "satisfying" me. But if you're going to ask that
question, then I'd suggest you consider whether there are ANY trim systems
that don't qualify as "independent" under that definition (I assume the
important part of your definition is the "not by the yoke or stick", rather
than the "moved by a cable").

There are, of course -- the Cirrus trim system comes to mind -- but they are
incredibly rare. I don't think that's a very useful definition of
"independent", because it fails to rule out practically all trim systems.
But in any case, if that's the definition you're going to use, you ought to
have been explicit about it, since I don't think most people would
immediately think of that use of the word when it's written.

Pete

Peter, stay on topic, this is a Cessna 206.

Peter Duniho wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
...

Okay, if I said by independent, it is moved by cable connected to a
wheel and not by the yoke or stick, would that satisfy you?


It's not a question of "satisfying" me. But if you're going to ask that
question, then I'd suggest you consider whether there are ANY trim systems
that don't qualify as "independent" under that definition (I assume the
important part of your definition is the "not by the yoke or stick", rather
than the "moved by a cable").

There are, of course -- the Cirrus trim system comes to mind -- but they are
incredibly rare. I don't think that's a very useful definition of
"independent", because it fails to rule out practically all trim systems.
But in any case, if that's the definition you're going to use, you ought to
have been explicit about it, since I don't think most people would
immediately think of that use of the word when it's written.

Pete

"john smith" wrote in message
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Peter, stay on topic, this is a Cessna 206.

So what if the original airplane was a 206? Are you trying to say that one
should only interpret the word "independent" as it might apply to the 206?
That the general definition as it might apply to all airplanes is
irrelevant?

Why bother saying that the trim control is "independent" at all then? Why
not just say "it's a 206 trim control"? I mean, as near as I can tell from
what "logic" you've been using, that would say all that needs to be said.

Anyway, it's clear you don't really care whether anyone actually understands
what you write, and like I said, it's not a question of "satisfying" me.
You do what you like, the rest of us will just stand by and watch you make
yourself look dumb.

Pete

In article ,
"Peter Duniho" wrote:

stand by and watch you make yourself look dumb.

With all your ranting you're not looking like a shining star either.

Sheesh, I'm sorry I posted anything.

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