Another Cirrus 'chute deployment

"Stefan" wrote in message
...
"Pilot William Graham, 65, told authorities that his airplane, a Cirrus
SR22, stalled at 16,000 feet, ..."

I'd rather say that it was the pilot who stalled the plane.

"... then encountered turbulent weather at 13,000 to 15,000 feet that
sent it into a spin, according to the Stockton Record newspaper. Graham
deployed an emergency parachute ..."

A spin at 15'000 ft is a non-event and can easily be recovered without a
chute.

None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin. The only spin recovery
method in the manual is to deploy the parachute.

C,

None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.


Here we go again. This statement is BS! And you know it!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:29:49 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

C,

None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.


Here we go again. This statement is BS! And you know it!

What is correct is that, regardless of people who claim to know people
who tested the Cirrus spin recovery, Cirrus has not demonstrated to
the FAA that it can recover from a spin, and the Cirrus certification
is based upon the use of the chute so that it would not have to
demonstrate spin recovery (equivalent level of safety).

ArtP,

Cirrus has not demonstrated to
the FAA that it can recover from a spin, and the Cirrus certification
is based upon the use of the chute so that it would not have to
demonstrate spin recovery (equivalent level of safety).


Yep. And your point is?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
C,

None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.


Here we go again. This statement is BS! And you know it!

If it is BS, then show me one instance of a Cirrus recovering from a spin.

"C J Campbell" wrote:
None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.

Oh, baloney, Chris.
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote:
None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.

Oh, baloney, Chris.

If it is baloney, show me even one single instance where a Cirrus recovered
from a spin.

"C J Campbell" wrote:

"C J Campbell" wrote:
None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.

Oh, baloney, Chris.

If it is baloney, show me even one single instance where a Cirrus
recovered
from a spin.

sigh All right, I'll start digging. I know I've read that CD factory
pilots have recovered from spins many times: I'll find it. And BTW,
why are spin recovery procedures given in the POH?

Meanwhile, what backup have you got for your assertion that "None of the
Cirrus models will recover from a spin?" Certification standards
applied to the airplanes don't count.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

In article , Dan Luke wrote:

sigh All right, I'll start digging. I know I've read that CD factory
pilots have recovered from spins many times: I'll find it. And BTW,
why are spin recovery procedures given in the POH?

This is apparently one of those questions like "what color was Grant's
gray horse." There aren't any spin recovery procedures in at least a
three year old SR-20 POH. It says the only recovery method is to deploy
the chute.

Have they added procedures to newer handbooks?

Mike Beede

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote:

"C J Campbell" wrote:
None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.

Oh, baloney, Chris.

If it is baloney, show me even one single instance where a Cirrus
recovered
from a spin.

sigh All right, I'll start digging. I know I've read that CD factory
pilots have recovered from spins many times: I'll find it. And BTW,
why are spin recovery procedures given in the POH?


Early manuals gave a theoretical method of spin recovery, but it has been
removed. The POH specifically says that the Cirrus has not been tested for
spin recovery, that intentional spins and recoveries are prohibited, and
that the only method approved for accidental spin recovery is deployment of
the BRS. Sounds an awful lot like "won't recover from a spin and has never
demonstrated recovery from a spin" to me.