Another Cirrus 'chute deployment

Thomas Borchert wrote:

Stefan,


I didn't know this.



Because it is not true.

Thomas, you're absolutely correct. I hope folks wake up to the fact
that CJ really has no clue as to what he's talking about when it comes
to matters Cirri. I've personally talked with test pilots who flew the
Cirrus SR-20 and 22 during certification. They're not walking on the
rooftops and shouting this statement, but the Cirrus SR-22 will recover
conventionally from many multi-turn spin scenarios. The chute provided
an alternative method of compliance which saved the company many
millions of dollars and months of certification effort at a point where
saving money and time was critically important to the longevity of the
company. That is the only reason it is included in the spin recovery
procedure. The current AFM procedure is to FIRST attempt conventional
spin recovery techniques, and if those fail, to deploy the chute.

Cirrus is understandably mute on this issue due to liability concerns.
Until conventional recovery is approved (if ever), they will NEVER say,
"Sure, the airplane will recover normally from spins!" I've never spun
a 20 or 22 and I have no intention of ever doing so, because spins are a
prohibited maneuver per the AFM. But wake up and engage the noggin,
folks, if you think this airplane is somehow magically incapable of
recovering from spins!

-Ryan
ATP/Cirrus Standardized Instructor

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:34:14 GMT, Ryan Ferguson
wrote:

Cirrus is understandably mute on this issue due to liability concerns.
Until conventional recovery is approved (if ever), they will NEVER say,
"Sure, the airplane will recover normally from spins!" I've never spun
a 20 or 22 and I have no intention of ever doing so, because spins are a
prohibited maneuver per the AFM. But wake up and engage the noggin,
folks, if you think this airplane is somehow magically incapable of
recovering from spins!

Any pilot who ignores the POH because some guy on the internet said so
richly deserves the Darwin award they are likely to receive.

ArtP wrote:

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:34:14 GMT, Ryan Ferguson
wrote:


Cirrus is understandably mute on this issue due to liability concerns.
Until conventional recovery is approved (if ever), they will NEVER say,
"Sure, the airplane will recover normally from spins!" I've never spun
a 20 or 22 and I have no intention of ever doing so, because spins are a
prohibited maneuver per the AFM. But wake up and engage the noggin,
folks, if you think this airplane is somehow magically incapable of
recovering from spins!


Any pilot who ignores the POH because some guy on the internet said so
richly deserves the Darwin award they are likely to receive.

Amen to that, Art. I hope that pilots will reference the proper
information for the airplane - and use some common sense - in any
emergency scenario.

-Ryan

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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Stefan,


I didn't know this.



Because it is not true.

Thomas, you're absolutely correct. I hope folks wake up to the fact
that CJ really has no clue as to what he's talking about when it comes
to matters Cirri. I've personally talked with test pilots who flew the
Cirrus SR-20 and 22 during certification.

Really? What were their names? When did you talk to them? And why are you
disputing what the manual, which is available on Cirrus' own web site,
clearly says? The sections of the manual that I have quoted were cut and
pasted from Cirrus' web site.

C J Campbell wrote:

Really? What were their names? When did you talk to them? And why are you
disputing what the manual, which is available on Cirrus' own web site,
clearly says? The sections of the manual that I have quoted were cut and
pasted from Cirrus' web site.

What you've ostensibly cut and pasted does not match any of my
materials, which are dated April, 2004.