In his own words - BWB and the OMABP

(bryan chaisone) wrote

Calling people names is just not wise. You never know how a person
will react, especially people you have only met on the net.
Personally calling people names really turns me off. I loose all
respect and admiration for the smartest and most experienced people
just because they are arrogant and ignorant. The smartest people, and
those that think they are smart are clueless themselves. If they were
smart, they wouldn't resort to calling names or resort to threat. If
they were smart they'd just go ahead and do what they said they'd do
and not give any warning.
snip
Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone


Bryan, Bryan, Bryan. In aviation, which I've been in all of my life,
you accord respect to those who have been practicing the prior art
successfully for more man-years than you have, because it is not wise
to do otherwise. Professional pilots have the benefit of living in a
real world classroom for ten to twenty years (sometimes less) before
they become PIC. Single pilot ops at 500 hrs are the most dangerous
kind in aviation but you guys seem to think after the government's
done mistraining you, that you can't be killed since you're a polite
person in society and the FAA's looking out for you. You see locker
room language and extensions of middle fingers on the screen, whereas,
I see emotion that's trying to tell me something important from a man
with more experience in that area than I have. Over 80% of human
communication is through facial expressions. The only way to covey
facial expression on this type of medium is through "smileys" or to
expand your vocabulary (including the use of profanity to convey
emotion.) We all would like to avoid mud-fights, but in this case I
think Corky was challenging BWB's honesty (solely because Bill was
featured in Kitplanes,) and Bill had a right to defend it. Now I
don't want to see this type of theater from you Bryan, because you
aren't an experienced builder/instructor yet. You probably still have
a lot to learn.

Guys like BWB and BYB are IMHO valuable resources to draw on for the
NG. I don't get along with them half the time myself, but I try to
overlook their faults (especially BOb's) and realize that
personalities like these, that don't care what others think of them,
are usually the most honest posters when it comes to content. They
post to amuse themselves and impart some reality to the group.
Whereas the average polite poster frequently: 1: has no idea what he's
talking about. 2: Worries so much about how he will be perceived that
even if he did know what he was talking about, would never dare to
voraciously correct something he's an expert on for fear of unfair
reprisal in the real world. Now you referenced someone kicking the
**** out of BWB in the real world. If someone can't win an argument
on the net and they take things to underhanded road-rage levels in the
real world, (stabbing holes in airplanes or hacking computers) they
shouldn't be surprised if it escalates into their back yard on some
dark night.

But we're just not going to use the same PC yardstick for old-school
guys like these who are hanging around here for free, trying to give
you a different perspective on flying and building. If it's too
salty, why don't you head on over to: rec.domestic.teaparty and I'm
sure they will moderate out any offensive historical truths about
trading tea for opium, so your polite tea-sipping won't be disturbed.
Sorry Bryan, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch you
lecture the instructor on his choice of language. If you don't like
it, don't take his class.

We like you Bryan buddy, but changing people is usually not possible.

pacplyer - out

But we're just not going to use the same PC yardstick for old-school
guys like these who are hanging around here for free, trying to give
you a different perspective on flying and building. If it's too
salty, why don't you head on over to: rec.domestic.teaparty and I'm
sure they will moderate out any offensive historical truths about
trading tea for opium, so your polite tea-sipping won't be disturbed.
Sorry Bryan, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch you
lecture the instructor on his choice of language. If you don't like
it, don't take his class.

We like you Bryan buddy, but changing people is usually not possible.

pacplyer - out



BBWWAWAAHHHAHHAHAAAAA

Pac, you crack me up. Only another brother with a lot of flying-time
can see through the bull ****. Isn't it interesting how clear all
this is to us, but how few will understand anything you had to say
above. And Bourbon? Hell, he sees all this too. He's been yanking a
stick since we were ****ting in our diapers. It's infinitely clear to
him too even though he's a cranky old **** and he ****es me off most
of the time too.

In Bryan's case, he'll understand your message. But, most won't. He's
done quit a bit that's transparent to the ng. He's one of us, he's
just a younger version, so he puts his head on a chopping block so we
can pick on him. Also, he's oriental, and as you know since you are
married to an oriental, they have manners far beyond anything that we
will ever have six lifetimes from now. I think most of what Bryan is
saying is related to his Asian culture of being mannerly. He came
from a culture where if you weren't mannerly they simply cut your head
off.

Have a nice day.

BWB

(Badwater Bill) wrote

BBWWAWAAHHHAHHAHAAAAA

Pac, you crack me up. Only another brother with a lot of flying-time
can see through the bull ****. Isn't it interesting how clear all
this is to us, but how few will understand anything you had to say
above. And Bourbon? Hell, he sees all this too. He's been yanking a
stick since we were ****ting in our diapers. It's infinitely clear to
him too even though he's a cranky old **** and he ****es me off most
of the time too.

In Bryan's case, he'll understand your message. But, most won't. He's
done quit a bit that's transparent to the ng. He's one of us, he's
just a younger version, so he puts his head on a chopping block so we
can pick on him. Also, he's oriental, and as you know since you are
married to an oriental, they have manners far beyond anything that we
will ever have six lifetimes from now. I think most of what Bryan is
saying is related to his Asian culture of being mannerly. He came
from a culture where if you weren't mannerly they simply cut your head
off.

Have a nice day.

BWB

Wow, I had a couple of scotches last night and it looks like I turned
into a wind tunnel. Just got this "Dish" system installed in my shop
and house and was rocking out to their Sirius digital music. A man
could build an airplane listening to that great range of music.

Yeah, I'm guessing Bryan's a good pilot. Maybe you could teach him
how to be an instructor in helos and he could teach you a little Zen
"chilling out" type stuff! BWAHAHAHAHAHA Naw, that wouldn't work.
You'd keep buzzing through the Buddhist temple at low altitudes in
your chopper like in that movie "Air America" and make all the monks
crack up and start blowing their vows of silence and meditation. ;-)

We have a couple of guys who have retired in Cambodia. They say that
for a hundred bucks you can go out to a secret spot and fire a
bona fide grenade launcher, burning down a few acres of jungle. They
say it is ****ing incredible. The deal is you can't talk about it,
since the gov there has promised that kind of thing won't go on any
more, in accordance with new anti-terrorism agreements.

Hahahahahaha. Hey big brother, I just made that part up. Man, I'm
such a good fiction writer.

pac

(pacplyer) wrote in message
Yeah, I'm guessing Bryan's a good pilot. Maybe you could teach him
how to be an instructor in helos and he could teach you a little Zen
"chilling out" type stuff! BWAHAHAHAHAHA Naw, that wouldn't work.
You'd keep buzzing through the Buddhist temple at low altitudes in
your chopper like in that movie "Air America" and make all the monks
crack up and start blowing their vows of silence and meditation. ;-)


Check out Jay's post Downright Scary... on rec.aviation.piloting.

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...ation.piloting

I hope that guy will "Live and Learn".

We have a couple of guys who have retired in Cambodia. They say that
for a hundred bucks you can go out to a secret spot and fire a
bona fide grenade launcher, burning down a few acres of jungle. They
say it is ****ing incredible.

I can arrange that in Thailand, Cambodia or Laos. I'll even be the
guide, a translator that you could actually understand. Or, you can
just come by one weekend and I'll take you shooting here near my house
in Virginia or on my property in WV.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

I can arrange that in Thailand, Cambodia or Laos. I'll even be the
guide, a translator that you could actually understand. Or, you can
just come by one weekend and I'll take you shooting here near my house
in Virginia or on my property in WV.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone


You guys see how cool this guy is? Bryan, you are tops.

BWB

Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(pacplyer) wrote in message . com...
(bryan chaisone) wrote

Calling people names is just not wise. You never know how a person
will react, especially people you have only met on the net.
Personally calling people names really turns me off. I loose all
respect and admiration for the smartest and most experienced people
just because they are arrogant and ignorant. The smartest people, and
those that think they are smart are clueless themselves. If they were
smart, they wouldn't resort to calling names or resort to threat. If
they were smart they'd just go ahead and do what they said they'd do
and not give any warning.
snip
Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone


Bryan, Bryan, Bryan. In aviation, which I've been in all of my life,
you accord respect to those who have been practicing the prior art
successfully for more man-years than you have, because it is not wise
to do otherwise. Professional pilots have the benefit of living in a
real world classroom for ten to twenty years (sometimes less) before
they become PIC. Single pilot ops at 500 hrs are the most dangerous
kind in aviation but you guys seem to think after the government's
done mistraining you, that you can't be killed since you're a polite
person in society and the FAA's looking out for you. You see locker
room language and extensions of middle fingers on the screen, whereas,
I see emotion that's trying to tell me something important from a man
with more experience in that area than I have. Over 80% of human
communication is through facial expressions. The only way to covey
facial expression on this type of medium is through "smileys" or to
expand your vocabulary (including the use of profanity to convey
emotion.) We all would like to avoid mud-fights, but in this case I
think Corky was challenging BWB's honesty (solely because Bill was
featured in Kitplanes,) and Bill had a right to defend it. Now I
don't want to see this type of theater from you Bryan, because you
aren't an experienced builder/instructor yet. You probably still have
a lot to learn.

Guys like BWB and BYB are IMHO valuable resources to draw on for the
NG. I don't get along with them half the time myself, but I try to
overlook their faults (especially BOb's) and realize that
personalities like these, that don't care what others think of them,
are usually the most honest posters when it comes to content. They
post to amuse themselves and impart some reality to the group.
Whereas the average polite poster frequently: 1: has no idea what he's
talking about. 2: Worries so much about how he will be perceived that
even if he did know what he was talking about, would never dare to
voraciously correct something he's an expert on for fear of unfair
reprisal in the real world. Now you referenced someone kicking the
**** out of BWB in the real world. If someone can't win an argument
on the net and they take things to underhanded road-rage levels in the
real world, (stabbing holes in airplanes or hacking computers) they
shouldn't be surprised if it escalates into their back yard on some
dark night.

But we're just not going to use the same PC yardstick for old-school
guys like these who are hanging around here for free, trying to give
you a different perspective on flying and building. If it's too
salty, why don't you head on over to: rec.domestic.teaparty and I'm
sure they will moderate out any offensive historical truths about
trading tea for opium, so your polite tea-sipping won't be disturbed.
Sorry Bryan, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch you
lecture the instructor on his choice of language. If you don't like
it, don't take his class.

We like you Bryan buddy, but changing people is usually not possible.

pacplyer - out

On 6 Jul 2004 20:34:12 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

It's got to be because you are a MONK! ;--]

BWB

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone



Hey Bry,

Yeah, and I over-lectured again, sorry about that. It was meant for
the group as a whole, not really you. You were right though, to get
****ed at BWB for forgetting who you are. What an old fart! This
means he buys the beer at the next hangar party (again.) ;-)

pac

On 7 Jul 2004 10:36:14 -0700, (pacplyer) wrote:

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone



Hey Bry,

Yeah, and I over-lectured again, sorry about that. It was meant for
the group as a whole, not really you. You were right though, to get
****ed at BWB for forgetting who you are. What an old fart! This
means he buys the beer at the next hangar party (again.) ;-)

pac


You got it Pac, as long as it's YOUR hangar. And if anyone complains
about the Miller Lite, then let the cheap muther ****ers buy whatever
beer they want to drink and share it with the crowd. The second year
at Pink Knee Ville, I was stupid and gave John Johnson Carte Blanche.
It thought I could trust him. What a mistake that was. A few hundred
bucks later for a special cooling system and multiple kegs, and the
Rah muther ****ers still bitched about the TYPE. I couldn't believe
it. Even O'ring was ****ed off for my sake. He went nuts at the fly
in and told me to NEVER buy the beer again for such an inconsiderate,
mooching crowd of assholes.

The next year when I didn't subsidize the party all you heard was Low
Flier whining about how he was losing his ass on the fly in. Well,
for Christ's sake, I didn't think it was a business and he was trying
to make money. But I guess he did make a few bucks when I was buying
all the beer. Then I heard his wife try to calm him down and tell him
they could freeze all the food that was left over and they'd have meat
through the winter. That seemed to calm him down so he wasn't coming
to me trying to mooch more money every hour.

Jesus, what a turn off.

BWB