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![]() "Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote: Now this brings up an interesting question. Are we, as US citizens on public land during peacetime, required to abide by the orders of military personnel? can you say 'Patriot Act'? The Patriot Act requires no such thing. with the Patriot Act the authorities in the US can do almost whatever they want. Baloney. http://www.google.com/search?q=patri...hts+government http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safe...ID=12126&c=207 http://www.aclu.org/NationalSecurity...?ID=9158&c=111 I submit that the hyped up opinions of a few extremist groups are not a reliable reference. |
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few extremist groups a If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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![]() "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... C, few extremist groups a If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. |
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*. -- Paul "Card carrying member" Tomblin I wouldn't be surprised if I'd have to put garlic in the CD drawer to really get rid of it. -- Arthur van der Harg on 'Gator' |
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![]() "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said: "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*. My sentiments too. What's weird about the case ACLU just won against the Justice Department? The court declared a part of the despicable Patriot Act unconstitutional. -- Paul "Card carrying member" Tomblin I wouldn't be surprised if I'd have to put garlic in the CD drawer to really get rid of it. -- Arthur van der Harg on 'Gator' |
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![]() "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said: "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*. If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However, the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States. |
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said: I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*. If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However, the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States. Name one instance of any of those things. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Mary had a little key,/She kept it in escrow/And everything that Mary sent/The Feds were sure to know." - Sam Simpson on sci.crypt |
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![]() "C J Campbell" wrote in message news ![]() "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said: "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you call the administration... I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird positions that it constantly takes in court. Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*. If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However, the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States. All conclusions spiced with invective. Do you have any specific examples? I didn't think so. Apparently your conception of "freedom of religion" is freedom to harness the state or any branch of government to propagate it, in spite of the First Amendment's Establishment Clause. So you tell us, for example, how ACLU has harmed your freedom of religion. You won't, of course. ACLU doesn't take gun cases. By staying out of this fray, ACLU works *against* the 2nd Amendment? You're amusing. And, gosh, isn't this NG about piloting airplanes? |
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However, the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States. Woohoo! Yeah, right! You just crack me up! -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news ![]() If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However, the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion, Actually, they've done just the opposite. For instance, contrary to right-wing disinformation, the ACLU defends the right of students to pray in public schools--silently or out loud, alone or in groups. But the ACLU has (quite properly) opposed allowing the government do anything to orchestrate or promote prayer in public schools. From the ACLU web site (http://www.aclu.org/StudentsRights/S...?ID=9069&c=162): "Is it ever ok to pray in school? Sure. Individual students have the right to pray whenever they want to, as long as they don't disrupt classroom instruction or other educational activities -- or try to force others to pray along with them. If a school official has told you that you can't pray at all during the school day, your right to exercise your religion is being violated. Contact your local ACLU for help." --Gary |
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