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Old September 29th 04, 04:11 PM
C J Campbell
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote:

Now this brings up an interesting question. Are we, as US

citizens
on
public land during peacetime, required to abide by the orders of
military personnel?


can you say 'Patriot Act'?

The Patriot Act requires no such thing.

with the Patriot Act the authorities in the US can do almost whatever

they
want.

Baloney.


http://www.google.com/search?q=patri...hts+government

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safe...ID=12126&c=207
http://www.aclu.org/NationalSecurity...?ID=9158&c=111


I submit that the hyped up opinions of a few extremist groups are not a
reliable reference.


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Old September 29th 04, 04:20 PM
Thomas Borchert
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C,

few extremist groups a


If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...

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Old September 29th 04, 06:25 PM
C J Campbell
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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C,

few extremist groups a


If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...


I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


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Old September 30th 04, 01:33 AM
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...


I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are
not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*.

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to really get rid of it.
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Old September 30th 04, 01:38 AM
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell"

said:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...


I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the

weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are
not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*.


My sentiments too. What's weird about the case ACLU just won against the
Justice Department? The court declared a part of the despicable Patriot
Act unconstitutional.

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Paul "Card carrying member" Tomblin
I wouldn't be surprised if I'd have to put garlic in the CD drawer
to really get rid of it.
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Old September 30th 04, 05:02 AM
C J Campbell
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell"

said:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...


I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the

weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are
not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*.


If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However,
the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of
religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also
sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually
collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States.


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Old September 30th 04, 01:16 PM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell"

said:
I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the

weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are
not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*.


If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However,
the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of
religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also
sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually
collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States.


Name one instance of any of those things.


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sent/The Feds were sure to know." - Sam Simpson on sci.crypt
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Old September 30th 04, 01:19 PM
jls
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "C J Campbell"

said:
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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If you qualify ACLU as an extremist group, I have to wonder what you
call the administration...

I certainly do qualify the ACLU as an extremist group, considering the

weird
positions that it constantly takes in court.


Yeah, that insisting that the rights guaranteed in the constitution are
not taken away from people arbitrarily is just *weird*.


If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However,
the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of
religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has

also
sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually
collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United

States.


All conclusions spiced with invective. Do you have any specific examples?
I didn't think so.

Apparently your conception of "freedom of religion" is freedom to harness
the state or any branch of government to propagate it, in spite of the First
Amendment's Establishment Clause. So you tell us, for example, how ACLU
has harmed your freedom of religion. You won't, of course.

ACLU doesn't take gun cases. By staying out of this fray, ACLU works
*against* the 2nd Amendment? You're amusing.

And, gosh, isn't this NG about piloting airplanes?


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Old September 30th 04, 01:55 PM
Thomas Borchert
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C,

However,
the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of
religion, the right to bear arms, and the right to own property. It has also
sought to disrupt family life, promote communism, and has continually
collaborated with despotic thugs that are the enemies of the United States.


Woohoo! Yeah, right!

You just crack me up!

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old September 30th 04, 02:17 PM
Gary Drescher
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news
If that is what the ACLU did I would not have a problem with it. However,
the ACLU has consistently worked to prohibit the exercise of freedom of
religion,


Actually, they've done just the opposite. For instance, contrary to
right-wing disinformation, the ACLU defends the right of students to pray in
public schools--silently or out loud, alone or in groups. But the ACLU has
(quite properly) opposed allowing the government do anything to
orchestrate or promote prayer in public schools.

From the ACLU web site
(http://www.aclu.org/StudentsRights/S...?ID=9069&c=162): "Is
it ever ok to pray in school? Sure. Individual students have the right to
pray whenever they want to, as long as they don't disrupt classroom
instruction or other educational activities -- or try to force others to
pray along with them. If a school official has told you that you can't pray
at all during the school day, your right to exercise your religion is being
violated. Contact your local ACLU for help."

--Gary


 




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