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Hmm, eat the right foods in moderation, don't snack on sugar filled
junk, don't drink carbonated sugar water (soda), excersize and you will weigh what you should weigh for your height. This is news? I remember a doctor being interviewed on 60 Minutes some five years ago, he was a cardiologist and had studied obesity and obese people and their eating/ excersize habits. He thought he knew how most overweight people got that way. His radical revelation was that obese people just ate too much, ate the wrong stuff and didn't excersize enough. He shrugged, said "sorry, but it's really that simple." He added that the percentage of folks who actually had some sort of glandular problem causing them to be overweight was so miniscule, it could hardly be tabulated. Corky Scott |
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... Hmm, eat the right foods in moderation, don't snack on sugar filled junk, don't drink carbonated sugar water (soda), excersize and you will weigh what you should weigh for your height. This is news? I remember a doctor being interviewed on 60 Minutes some five years ago, he was a cardiologist and had studied obesity and obese people and their eating/ excersize habits. He thought he knew how most overweight people got that way. His radical revelation was that obese people just ate too much, ate the wrong stuff and didn't excersize enough. He shrugged, said "sorry, but it's really that simple." He added that the percentage of folks who actually had some sort of glandular problem causing them to be overweight was so miniscule, it could hardly be tabulated. Hmm.......... Perhaps it is him who is simple. Or outdated. I suggest reading recent literature on gene effects of obesity. There is a good layman's article in (IIRC) Reader's Digest last month on this subject. It is more complicated than simply lack of will power or eating habits. Rich "It ain't my fault!" S. ![]() |
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Rich S. wrote:
wrote in message ... Hmm, eat the right foods in moderation, don't snack on sugar filled junk, don't drink carbonated sugar water (soda), excersize and you will weigh what you should weigh for your height. This is news? I remember a doctor being interviewed on 60 Minutes some five years ago, he was a cardiologist and had studied obesity and obese people and their eating/ excersize habits. He thought he knew how most overweight people got that way. His radical revelation was that obese people just ate too much, ate the wrong stuff and didn't excersize enough. He shrugged, said "sorry, but it's really that simple." He added that the percentage of folks who actually had some sort of glandular problem causing them to be overweight was so miniscule, it could hardly be tabulated. Hmm.......... Perhaps it is him who is simple. Or outdated. I suggest reading recent literature on gene effects of obesity. There is a good layman's article in (IIRC) Reader's Digest last month on this subject. It is more complicated than simply lack of will power or eating habits. Rich "It ain't my fault!" S. ![]() So you are saying that our genetics have changed dramatically in the last 40 years? I don't buy it. Our rate of obesity has increased dramatically in the lat 40 years, but I don't think we've mutated all that much genetically. Then again, I'm not a geneticist... :-) Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
So you are saying that our genetics have changed dramatically in the last 40 years? I don't buy it. Our rate of obesity has increased dramatically in the lat 40 years, but I don't think we've mutated all that much genetically. Then again, I'm not a geneticist... :-) Matt That's not quite correct - at least according to my doctor. They call it Factor-X diabetes. I have hardly any genetic risk for diabetes, but have developed Type-1 anyway. The cause is generally explained as the massive amount of sugar and alcohol that have been introduced into our diets since about 1940 or so. The doctor prescribed an oral med (Metformin HCL, in my case) and over the first year I shed 50 pounds with very little change in diet or activity. I'm now 196 pounds, which is not too bad at 6'3. If you are overweight (and by media reports, most of us are seriously so), might be wise to get screened for Diabetes. Especially if your diet has included a lot of soda or alcohol... Richard |
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 03:11:16 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: So you are saying that our genetics have changed dramatically in the last 40 years? I don't buy it. Our rate of obesity has increased dramatically in the lat 40 years, but I don't think we've mutated all that much genetically. Then again, I'm not a geneticist... :-) Matt That's not quite correct - at least according to my doctor. They call it Factor-X diabetes. I have hardly any genetic risk for diabetes, but have developed Type-1 anyway. type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease. the beta cells in the pancreas are a type of secreting nerve cell different from those around them. the immune system occasionally gets it wrong and removes them. in australia type 1 means no pilots licence but in the usa you have about 250 pilots who manage the problem in flight so well through continual monitoring that they have their licences. amazing to see that after the hoover fiasco. Stealth Pilot |
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![]() "Stealth Pilot" wrote in australia type 1 means no pilots licence but in the usa you have about 250 pilots who manage the problem in flight so well through continual monitoring that they have their licences. amazing to see that after the hoover fiasco. Stealth Pilot I have a niece that has type one. It is amazing, the advances that have been made. She has a pump that lets a controlled constant dose of insulin into her body, then before every meal, she checks her blood, then calculates what she will be eating, takes into account where her sugar level was, then programs the pump to release just the amount needed for the meal. She is almost always right on the right blood sugar level. -- Jim in NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/2004 |
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Richard Lamb wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: So you are saying that our genetics have changed dramatically in the last 40 years? I don't buy it. Our rate of obesity has increased dramatically in the lat 40 years, but I don't think we've mutated all that much genetically. Then again, I'm not a geneticist... :-) Matt That's not quite correct - at least according to my doctor. They call it Factor-X diabetes. I have hardly any genetic risk for diabetes, but have developed Type-1 anyway. The cause is generally explained as the massive amount of sugar and alcohol that have been introduced into our diets since about 1940 or so. The doctor prescribed an oral med (Metformin HCL, in my case) and over the first year I shed 50 pounds with very little change in diet or activity. I'm now 196 pounds, which is not too bad at 6'3. If you are overweight (and by media reports, most of us are seriously so), might be wise to get screened for Diabetes. Especially if your diet has included a lot of soda or alcohol... Richard I don't understand your point. You say I'm not correct, but then what you say pretty much supports what I said, that it isn't genetics that is to blame for our obesity problem in America. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Richard Lamb wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: So you are saying that our genetics have changed dramatically in the last 40 years? I don't buy it. Our rate of obesity has increased dramatically in the lat 40 years, but I don't think we've mutated all that much genetically. Then again, I'm not a geneticist... :-) Matt That's not quite correct - at least according to my doctor. They call it Factor-X diabetes. I have hardly any genetic risk for diabetes, but have developed Type-1 anyway. The cause is generally explained as the massive amount of sugar and alcohol that have been introduced into our diets since about 1940 or so. The doctor prescribed an oral med (Metformin HCL, in my case) and over the first year I shed 50 pounds with very little change in diet or activity. I'm now 196 pounds, which is not too bad at 6'3. If you are overweight (and by media reports, most of us are seriously so), might be wise to get screened for Diabetes. Especially if your diet has included a lot of soda or alcohol... Richard I don't understand your point. You say I'm not correct, but then what you say pretty much supports what I said, that it isn't genetics that is to blame for our obesity problem in America. Matt Sorry Matt. I was just saying that I thought genetics have _not_ changed. But I see that was your point as well. Richard |
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:17:31 -0700, Rich S. wrote:
layman's article in (IIRC) Reader's Digest last month on this subject. It is more complicated than simply lack of will power or eating habits. I don't think it's that complex. I heard on the radio today that basically 2/3's of the population is overweight. Now there can't be that many genetic/medical problems because it doesn't occur in a lot of other countries. I'll give you a personal example. As of Jan 1 2004 I weighed 215 lbs and had a blood pressure that was around 138/88 and as of this date I weigh 168 lbs with a blood pressure of 112/72 on average. Want to know my secret, it wasn't some fancy diet or medicine or genetic modification to fix natures mistake. I cut out the sweets during the day and stopped drinking soda like I had been. I did a quick off hand calculation of my caloric intake then and now. That gave me a daily total of around 3500 to 4000 calories each and every day, then. I now eat the serving sizes suggested and for dinner I try to limit my deserts to one slice of cake if I have it, and try to end up with a total intake of around around 1800 - 2000 calories each day. I just had a physical done last Friday and for the most part I'm in good health even though I still have a higher cholesterol level of around 225. My ratio of good to bad is excellent and in fact it's better than average so the doctor doesn't seem overly concerned about it, but he would like to see it lower if I can do it. Of that I'm not sure how because I'm not eating foods that would make it high. He did talk about overweight problems in general being due to over eating and the way I fixed it was how it should be done. PS, my so called diet was started under advice of the medical profession, a dietitian suggested a simple balanced meal and it worked. Watch the people around you the next time you eat out. I'll bet you see them overeat by a HUGE amount. Go to KFC, Hardee's, McDonals, etc. and watch. You'll see the majority of people consume over 1000 calories at one sitting, imagine them doing the same for 2 more meals. Now you'll see why eating is why we're overweight as a nation. That is the meat of the problem if you ask me and my observations confirm it. Yes, some people have a real problem and can't help it, that's what the RD article suggested. It didn't say 66 percent of our population had real medical problems. That figure came from a CBS radio broadcast today on obesity in our nation, take it for what it's worth because it came from CBS. Calories are calories regardless of where they come from and if you have too many you're going to gain weight, it's that simple. The war is not yet won. Although I have lost all the weight I intend on, now I must maintain it and I fear that's the hardest part to come. I feel better now than I did at the beginning of the year and my knees hurt less, so I figure I did a good thing by curbing my desire for sweets which is where most of calories came from. |
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Matt, you're describing "Fork-in-Mouth" disease.
"Matthew P. Cummings" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:17:31 -0700, Rich S. wrote: layman's article in (IIRC) Reader's Digest last month on this subject. It is more complicated than simply lack of will power or eating habits. I don't think it's that complex. I heard on the radio today that basically 2/3's of the population is overweight. Now there can't be that many genetic/medical problems because it doesn't occur in a lot of other countries. I'll give you a personal example. As of Jan 1 2004 I weighed 215 lbs and had a blood pressure that was around 138/88 and as of this date I weigh 168 lbs with a blood pressure of 112/72 on average. Want to know my secret, it wasn't some fancy diet or medicine or genetic modification to fix natures mistake. I cut out the sweets during the day and stopped drinking soda like I had been. I did a quick off hand calculation of my caloric intake then and now. That gave me a daily total of around 3500 to 4000 calories each and every day, then. I now eat the serving sizes suggested and for dinner I try to limit my deserts to one slice of cake if I have it, and try to end up with a total intake of around around 1800 - 2000 calories each day. I just had a physical done last Friday and for the most part I'm in good health even though I still have a higher cholesterol level of around 225. My ratio of good to bad is excellent and in fact it's better than average so the doctor doesn't seem overly concerned about it, but he would like to see it lower if I can do it. Of that I'm not sure how because I'm not eating foods that would make it high. He did talk about overweight problems in general being due to over eating and the way I fixed it was how it should be done. PS, my so called diet was started under advice of the medical profession, a dietitian suggested a simple balanced meal and it worked. Watch the people around you the next time you eat out. I'll bet you see them overeat by a HUGE amount. Go to KFC, Hardee's, McDonals, etc. and watch. You'll see the majority of people consume over 1000 calories at one sitting, imagine them doing the same for 2 more meals. Now you'll see why eating is why we're overweight as a nation. That is the meat of the problem if you ask me and my observations confirm it. Yes, some people have a real problem and can't help it, that's what the RD article suggested. It didn't say 66 percent of our population had real medical problems. That figure came from a CBS radio broadcast today on obesity in our nation, take it for what it's worth because it came from CBS. Calories are calories regardless of where they come from and if you have too many you're going to gain weight, it's that simple. The war is not yet won. Although I have lost all the weight I intend on, now I must maintain it and I fear that's the hardest part to come. I feel better now than I did at the beginning of the year and my knees hurt less, so I figure I did a good thing by curbing my desire for sweets which is where most of calories came from. |
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