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![]() "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... C J Campbell wrote: No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without a draft. Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't do anything to stop the already existing draft. From http://college.hmco.com/history/read...nscription.htm With the draft so controversial, Congress came under increased pressure either to reform it or to eliminate it. Supported by many conservatives, Gen. Lewis B. Hershey, the director of Selective Service since 1941, blocked any changes until 1969, including the 1967 recommendations for equity and national uniformity from a presidential commission headed by former assistant attorney general Burke Marshall. President Richard M. Nixon, after criticizing the draft in his 1968 campaign, ended new occupational and dependency deferments, instituted an annual draft lottery among eighteen-year-olds (beginning in December 1969), removed General Hershey, and appointed a commission, headed by former secretary of defense Thomas Gates, which in 1970 recommended an All-Volunteer Armed Force (avf) with a stand-by draft for emergency use. Nixon reduced draft calls while gradually withdrawing U.S. troops, but his dispatch of American units across the border into Cambodia in 1970 led to massive public protests. Only reluctantly did Congress in 1971 extend the draft for two more years. The lawmakers also eliminated student deferments and voted a massive ($2.4 billion) pay increase for the lower ranks in order to achieve an avf by mid-1973. During the 1972 election campaign, Nixon cut draft calls to 50,000 and stopped forcing draftees to go to Vietnam. On January 27, 1973, the day a cease-fire was announced, the administration stopped drafting, six months before induction authority expired on July 1, 1973. Compulsory draft registration, which President Gerald Ford suspended in 1975, was resumed in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter in reaction to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. President Ronald Reagan extended it in 1982 and prosecuted a few of those who refused to register (estimated at 500,000 between 1980 and 1984) |
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Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held
over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Patrick "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... C J Campbell wrote: No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without a draft. Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't do anything to stop the already existing draft. From http://college.hmco.com/history/read...nscription.htm With the draft so controversial, Congress came under increased pressure either to reform it or to eliminate it. Supported by many conservatives, Gen. Lewis B. Hershey, the director of Selective Service since 1941, blocked any changes until 1969, including the 1967 recommendations for equity and national uniformity from a presidential commission headed by former assistant attorney general Burke Marshall. President Richard M. Nixon, after criticizing the draft in his 1968 campaign, ended new occupational and dependency deferments, instituted an annual draft lottery among eighteen-year-olds (beginning in December 1969), removed General Hershey, and appointed a commission, headed by former secretary of defense Thomas Gates, which in 1970 recommended an All-Volunteer Armed Force (avf) with a stand-by draft for emergency use. Nixon reduced draft calls while gradually withdrawing U.S. troops, but his dispatch of American units across the border into Cambodia in 1970 led to massive public protests. Only reluctantly did Congress in 1971 extend the draft for two more years. The lawmakers also eliminated student deferments and voted a massive ($2.4 billion) pay increase for the lower ranks in order to achieve an avf by mid-1973. During the 1972 election campaign, Nixon cut draft calls to 50,000 and stopped forcing draftees to go to Vietnam. On January 27, 1973, the day a cease-fire was announced, the administration stopped drafting, six months before induction authority expired on July 1, 1973. Compulsory draft registration, which President Gerald Ford suspended in 1975, was resumed in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter in reaction to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. President Ronald Reagan extended it in 1982 and prosecuted a few of those who refused to register (estimated at 500,000 between 1980 and 1984) |
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![]() "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Hey! I go to Disneyland and absolutely refuse to listen to "It's A Small World!" That thing counts as cruel and unusual. |
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![]() "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Hey! I go to Disneyland and absolutely refuse to listen to "It's A Small World!" That thing counts as cruel and unusual. |
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They're being illegaly and fraudulently coerced to re-up with threats that
if they don't re-up voluntarily, they will be forced and sent to Iraq. mike regish "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Patrick |
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No they are not , you don't have a dang clue about what you are talking
about. NO ONE HAS BEEN FORCED TO RE-UP. Maybe if you had of served in something other than the girl scouts you would know the difference. As far as Bush..I don't like everything he does at all. But I would never vote for a commie posing as a Democrat that talked nothing but crap of our servicemen in Vietnam. What kind of morale do you think that would bring to our fighting men..and NO you ain't one of them! I end my discussion here...the ignorance has just disgusted me beyond any more words. Just breaks my heart that my son will fight for the likes of the chicken****s that are to afraid to serve. Move to France or Canada! Patrick "mike regish" wrote in message news:QgGad.161789$wV.77680@attbi_s54... They're being illegaly and fraudulently coerced to re-up with threats that if they don't re-up voluntarily, they will be forced and sent to Iraq. mike regish "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Patrick |
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You ought to tell that to the kid being interviewed on the news the other
day with his face blacked out. They don't "force" them, but if you don't think they can coerce a confused kid into signing up, you must be on a respirator because you're too naive to breath. And if it ever looks like my kids are going to get dragged into this assholes bull**** war, we are going to Canada. mike regish "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... No they are not , you don't have a dang clue about what you are talking about. NO ONE HAS BEEN FORCED TO RE-UP. Maybe if you had of served in something other than the girl scouts you would know the difference. As far as Bush..I don't like everything he does at all. But I would never vote for a commie posing as a Democrat that talked nothing but crap of our servicemen in Vietnam. What kind of morale do you think that would bring to our fighting men..and NO you ain't one of them! I end my discussion here...the ignorance has just disgusted me beyond any more words. Just breaks my heart that my son will fight for the likes of the chicken****s that are to afraid to serve. Move to France or Canada! Patrick "mike regish" wrote in message news:QgGad.161789$wV.77680@attbi_s54... They're being illegaly and fraudulently coerced to re-up with threats that if they don't re-up voluntarily, they will be forced and sent to Iraq. mike regish "W P Dixon" wrote in message ... Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB! HAHA Patrick |
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In article E2Iad.350438$mD.245532@attbi_s02, "mike regish"
wrote: You ought to tell that to the kid being interviewed on the news the other day with his face blacked out. They don't "force" them, but if you don't think they can coerce a confused kid into signing up, you must be on a respirator because you're too naive to breath. That is a vastly different experience than that of the active-duty and guard people I work with.... -- Bob Noel Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal" oh yeah baby. |
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Oh. Then you must not work with this kid. Maybe you should go talk to him
and tell him it's all in his imagination. mike regish "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article E2Iad.350438$mD.245532@attbi_s02, "mike regish" wrote: You ought to tell that to the kid being interviewed on the news the other day with his face blacked out. They don't "force" them, but if you don't think they can coerce a confused kid into signing up, you must be on a respirator because you're too naive to breath. That is a vastly different experience than that of the active-duty and guard people I work with.... -- Bob Noel Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal" oh yeah baby. |
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Oh. Then you must not work with this kid. Maybe you should go talk to him
and tell him it's all in his imagination. mike regish "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article E2Iad.350438$mD.245532@attbi_s02, "mike regish" wrote: You ought to tell that to the kid being interviewed on the news the other day with his face blacked out. They don't "force" them, but if you don't think they can coerce a confused kid into signing up, you must be on a respirator because you're too naive to breath. That is a vastly different experience than that of the active-duty and guard people I work with.... -- Bob Noel Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal" oh yeah baby. |
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