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Old October 25th 04, 09:58 PM
Schlomo Lipchitz
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Delta Airlines had a couple of female pilots sitting at home getting
full pay - one of which I flew with personally. They were fired for
incompetence. But when they threatened to sue for sexual
discrimination, Delta opted to just pay them rather that go through
the negative publicity. And that's a fact Jack!



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Old October 25th 04, 10:31 PM
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And you wonder why women see a glass ceiling. It's golddiggers like these
and Andrea Mackris (Bill O'Reilly's accuser) that cause people like me to
avoid hiring women like the plague.


"Schlomo Lipchitz" wrote in message
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Delta Airlines had a couple of female pilots sitting at home getting
full pay - one of which I flew with personally. They were fired for
incompetence. But when they threatened to sue for sexual
discrimination, Delta opted to just pay them rather that go through
the negative publicity. And that's a fact Jack!





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Old October 25th 04, 11:40 PM
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T.Roger wrote:
And you wonder why women see a glass ceiling. It's golddiggers like
these and Andrea Mackris (Bill O'Reilly's accuser) that cause people
like me to avoid hiring women like the plague.


Yeah, there are no bad guys, only bad gold digger women. Who ****ed in your
Wheaties?


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Old October 26th 04, 02:12 AM
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"Schmoe" wrote in message
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T.Roger wrote:
And you wonder why women see a glass ceiling. It's golddiggers like
these and Andrea Mackris (Bill O'Reilly's accuser) that cause people
like me to avoid hiring women like the plague.


Yeah, there are no bad guys, only bad gold digger women. Who ****ed in your
Wheaties?


Before there ever were any women pilots, there were airplane crashes. I wonder
if it ever occurs to the critics of female pilots that women were never involved
in those crashes. (^-^)))

George Z.




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Old October 26th 04, 08:36 AM
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Anita Hill


"Schmoe" wrote in message
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T.Roger wrote:
And you wonder why women see a glass ceiling. It's golddiggers like
these and Andrea Mackris (Bill O'Reilly's accuser) that cause people
like me to avoid hiring women like the plague.


Yeah, there are no bad guys, only bad gold digger women. Who ****ed in
your Wheaties?



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Old October 26th 04, 11:54 PM
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"T.Roger" wrote in message
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Anita Hill



I take it you don't get laid alot.


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Old October 26th 04, 12:02 AM
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I think this is a valid question, maybe the politically correct amongst us
would shy away from such a question, but then, one of my friends once told
me that the most interesting questions are those that are politically
incorrect at the time. I would like to see the research not for the purpose
of NOT hiring women or the like, but the see what differences in error
making actually exists between the two sexes. Maybe both sexes can learn
from their genetic predispositions and be on the look out more carefully.

OT: on the other hand, I see that women are imho, better physicians than
men. They are smarter, read more, are more up to date, are more demanding
of themselves and of others around them (which means they can be more of a
pain in the ass too) and are just as skilled manually as men. Again, off
topic, women`s complaints of sexual discrimination and harassment do
occasionally make them fall victim even before starting, because people are
afraid to hire them and treat them as they do men, for fear they will use
the sex card against their employer. A friend`s husband was fired for
alleged sexual harassment in a software company but never got an opportunity
to defend himself. Let go immediately that same day and told that if he
shut up and accepted the plight, this would not show up on this work record.
Considering the software business lately, he had little choice.

Tien

"T.Roger" wrote in message
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And you wonder why women see a glass ceiling. It's golddiggers like these
and Andrea Mackris (Bill O'Reilly's accuser) that cause people like me to
avoid hiring women like the plague.


"Schlomo Lipchitz" wrote in message
...
Delta Airlines had a couple of female pilots sitting at home getting
full pay - one of which I flew with personally. They were fired for
incompetence. But when they threatened to sue for sexual
discrimination, Delta opted to just pay them rather that go through
the negative publicity. And that's a fact Jack!







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Old October 26th 04, 06:11 PM
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"Tien Dao" wrote in message
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I would like to see the research not for the purpose
of NOT hiring women or the like, but the see what differences in error
making actually exists between the two sexes. Maybe both sexes can learn
from their genetic predispositions and be on the look out more carefully.


Even if there were genetic predispositions of the sort you're speculating
about, I don't see how it would help to be on the lookout as you suggest.
Wouldn't it make more sense for each of us to ascertain (with the help of
our instructors and examiners) our own individual strengths and weaknesses,
rather than pretending that we each had a skill set that matches the
statistical mean for our gender?

By analogy, there is a genetic correlation between gender and height. But
knowing this correlation doesn't help us to be on the lookout for what size
clothing we should buy. You want to buy clothing that fits you, not
clothing that fits the average person of your gender.

--Gary


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Old October 27th 04, 12:58 AM
Tien Dao
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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By analogy, there is a genetic correlation between gender and height. But
knowing this correlation doesn't help us to be on the lookout for what

size
clothing we should buy. You want to buy clothing that fits you, not
clothing that fits the average person of your gender.


Maybe you are right. Although, I would have to add that you cannot change
your height, but if you have judgement or coordination inadequacies, these
might be addressed by further training, knowing that you MAY be more
predisposed to these types of errors. Also, for example, knowing that many
women feel sensitive what may constitute sexual harassment limits, a man may
be taught to better control his innate sexual drives. Arnold found this out
the hard way. No pun intended...

Tien


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Old October 27th 04, 02:30 AM
Gary Drescher
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"Tien Dao" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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By analogy, there is a genetic correlation between gender and height. But
knowing this correlation doesn't help us to be on the lookout for what

size
clothing we should buy. You want to buy clothing that fits you, not
clothing that fits the average person of your gender.


Maybe you are right. Although, I would have to add that you cannot change
your height,


Well, you could wear elevator shoes or something, which would be analogous
to training that compensates for innate weaknesses in your judgment or
coordination.

but if you have judgement or coordination inadequacies, these
might be addressed by further training, knowing that you MAY be more
predisposed to these types of errors.


Again, though, your judgment and your coordination are on display throughout
your flight training (as well as in other areas of your life). So even if
there turns out to be a correlation between gender and judgment or
coordination, your gender doesn't tell you anything you and your instructor
didn't already know about whether you need compensatory training--just as
(despite the correlation) your gender doesn't tell you anything you didn't
already know about your height.

I agree with your broader point, though, that we needn't just surrender to
whatever innate dispositions we may have; instead, we can work to change how
those dispositions are expressed. But we should be careful to distinguish an
individual's own predispositions from the average predispositions among some
group that the individual belongs to.

--Gary


 




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