Co-pilot error caused AA 587 crash

Peter wrote:

In real life, parking lots unfortunately have many things you can
impact such as curbs, potholes, posts, etc. In the absence of those
there aren't all that many models of cars that can be flipped on a
flat parking lot. That was one of Nader's original complaints
about the Corvair and VW Beetle - due to an unusual rear suspension
design it was possible to flip these. There are also some vehicles
that are relatively narrow with a high center-of-gravity, but most
cars will not flip when driven on a flat surface regardless of the
control inputs.

That is especially true if the road surface is wet or snow covered.

Yes, the wheels were turned rapidly and the cars did spin out of
control - but there was no indication that any even came close to
flipping over.

Just because a car is spinning, doesn't mean it is out of control. Is
your plane out of control if you spin it? If so how do you stop the
spin with out hitting the ground?


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Chris W wrote:

Peter wrote:

Yes, the wheels were turned rapidly and the cars did spin out of
control - but there was no indication that any even came close to
flipping over.

Just because a car is spinning, doesn't mean it is out of control.

And I neither wrote nor implied anything to the contrary. But in
the case I was describing the cars were both spinning and out of
control.