History of the BFR?

"Don Tuite" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:26:47 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

GI Bill?

Probably not, but that was the best thing ever to happen to general
aviation.
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Don

No lie. The GI bill was the ONLY reason the 200HP versions of the Cessna
Cardinal RG, Piper Arrow, and Beech Sierra were ever built. To satisfy the
training requirements of the GI bill.

Thousands were sold on that basis, mostly to unsuspecting leaseback owners.

However, very few of the GI bill students ever became professional pilots.
Most got their ratings and already had a "good" job. Look at the poor
suckers who went into the airlines for a "career." Have you EVER seen a
happy airline pilot?

Karl

"kage" wrote

However, very few of the GI bill students ever became professional
pilots. Most got their ratings and already had a "good" job. Look at
the poor suckers who went into the airlines for a "career." Have you
EVER seen a happy airline pilot?

YES!!! I was a VERY happy airline pilot at Pan American Airways.
Why would I not have been? A salary better than most of my college
classmates, worked only 12 days/month to earn it, travel free all
over the world and in the better days, a bunch of lovely young ladies
to party with. As a lifestyle, it sure beat anything that my neighbors
were doing.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727
PanAm (retired)

YES!!! I was a VERY happy airline pilot at Pan American Airways.
Why would I not have been? A salary better than most of my college
classmates, worked only 12 days/month to earn it, travel free all
over the world and in the better days, a bunch of lovely young ladies
to party with. As a lifestyle, it sure beat anything that my neighbors
were doing.

With a description like that, is it any wonder that those jobs -- and Pan Am
itself -- are only a distant memory?

I know you are aware that you were incredibly lucky to fly in the times you
did, because nowadays -- in an era where everyone can (and must be able to)
afford to fly commercially -- that job description would never happen.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:54:10 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I know you are aware that you were incredibly lucky to fly in the times you
did,

This applies to a lot of what we experience in life. Shucks, most
people who got jobs in the 1950s, 1960s, and even 1970s were
incredibly lucky. Practically any salaried job had tenure! Employers
would carry a loyal employee to the grave. Amercans were "salarymen"
just like the Japanese, though in a more informal fashion.

College teachers were fortunate like airline pilots. Now the
first-timers work three jobs to get by.

But as a society, who wanted to go back to the 1950s or even the
1960s? We are at least twice as wealthy now.


all the best -- Dan Ford
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But as a society, who wanted to go back to the 1950s or even the
1960s? We are at least twice as wealthy now.

True.

After the Great Depression, my father's generation valued job *stability*
above all else. I personally think that is why businesses and employees
were so loyal to one another -- those guys had seen what a complete economic
melt-down looked like, and they never wanted to repeat it.

My generation has always gone for the "big money" -- meaning that we change
jobs like my father changed socks. Combined with world competition, this
has meant that nobody even talks about "job loyalty" anymore.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

My generation has always gone for the "big money" -- meaning that we change
jobs like my father changed socks. Combined with world competition, this
has meant that nobody even talks about "job loyalty" anymore.

Scott Adams put it something like this. Employment used to be like the Christian
religion. You work at a job all your life so that you can have a nice "afterlife"
when you retire. Now it's more like reincarnation. You work at one job for a few
years hoping to do better in your next one.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

I don't think you'd like flying for PanAm today!

Karl
"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"kage" wrote

However, very few of the GI bill students ever became professional
pilots. Most got their ratings and already had a "good" job. Look at
the poor suckers who went into the airlines for a "career." Have you
EVER seen a happy airline pilot?

YES!!! I was a VERY happy airline pilot at Pan American Airways.
Why would I not have been? A salary better than most of my college
classmates, worked only 12 days/month to earn it, travel free all
over the world and in the better days, a bunch of lovely young ladies
to party with. As a lifestyle, it sure beat anything that my neighbors
were doing.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727
PanAm (retired)