Required IFR Radios

neat trick.. until you have to wait 2 minutes to get through the entire ATIS
tape to get back to the beginning for something you missed..

BT

"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Yes. Common even when you have 2 radios.

A good trick when radio traffic is heavy is to look at the approach
control
freq on the plate. When a controller hands you off to that frequency, go
grab the ATIS and then check-in with approach on the new freq. They're not
expecting your call right away and this way you don't have to try to pick
the atis out in between all the calls on approach control.

-cwk.

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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If I am reading FAR 91.205 (d) (2) correctly, you only need one COMM
radio
and one navigation radio (of some type) for IFR operation.

If this is correct, how do you stay in contact with ATC while picking up
ATIS, etc?

Are you allowed to request a frequency change, then come back to ATC?

Thanks!

"BTIZ" wrote in message
newsOWhd.74436$bk1.68533@fed1read05...
neat trick.. until you have to wait 2 minutes to get through the entire
ATIS
tape to get back to the beginning for something you missed..

ATC is not going to care if you take 2 minutes to complete a handoff. Even
if you did run into an ATIS that took that long to copy (which would be very
rare).

Peter Duniho ) wrote:

ATC is not going to care if you take 2 minutes to complete a handoff.

Maybe this is yet another locality difference? In the Northeast US
airspace, I recall at least two incidents receiving a hand-off, tuning
the frequency, and having to wait about a minute to check in due to
frequency congestion. Before I was able to make the call, the
controller suddenly called me: "Bonanza xxx, are you on yet?"

In both cases, I remember acknowledging the call and immediately
receiving either an altitude change or a vector for traffic.

Now, had I not been on the frequency, would this have been a problem?
Probably not, because I am sure the controller had other options, but it
seemed to make the controller's work slightly easier that I was there.

In a one-radio scenario, I would prefer an immediate frequency switch,
then include a request for frequency change with the check-in rather
than take time between switching frequencies to receive the ATIS.


--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Maybe this is yet another locality difference? In the Northeast US
airspace, I recall at least two incidents receiving a hand-off, tuning
the frequency, and having to wait about a minute to check in due to
frequency congestion. Before I was able to make the call, the
controller suddenly called me: "Bonanza xxx, are you on yet?"

Probably because he was aware of the frequency congestion, and realized you
may be on frequency without being able to actually report in.

However, that doesn't mean it would have been a problem for you to have
copied an ATIS broadcast prior to checking in.

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Peter Duniho ) wrote:

ATC is not going to care if you take 2 minutes to complete a handoff.

Maybe this is yet another locality difference? In the Northeast US
airspace, I recall at least two incidents receiving a hand-off, tuning

I'm based at Hanscom field near Boston and have rarely had any problems
using this technique.

Best,
-cwk.

C Kingsbury ) wrote:


"Peter R." wrote in message
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Peter Duniho ) wrote:

ATC is not going to care if you take 2 minutes to complete a handoff.

Maybe this is yet another locality difference? In the Northeast US
airspace, I recall at least two incidents receiving a hand-off, tuning

I'm based at Hanscom field near Boston and have rarely had any problems
using this technique.

Are you mostly VFR or IFR when you do this?

--
Peter